A militia group called the Crusaders charged with plotting to bomb Somali immigrants in Kansas

[Smart_Guy]

"Curtis Allen, 49, Gavin Wright, 49, and Patrick Eugene Stein, 47, had gathered firearms and explosives for the attack, according to the US Justice Department.
The suspects had prepared a manifesto and conspired to detonate a bomb at apartments where Somalis were among some 120 residents, said prosecutors."

Source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37662899

Personal thoughts:
All three of them are ~48 year old. Just saying.

 

[LuisDantas]

About time someone calling themselves "crusaders" appeared, after so many years of scaremongering about what they were supposed to be doing.

 

[Godobeyer]

"Curtis Allen, 49, Gavin Wright, 49, and Patrick Eugene Stein, 47, had gathered firearms and explosives for the attack, according to the US Justice Department.
The suspects had prepared a manifesto and conspired to detonate a bomb at apartments where Somalis were among some 120 residents, said prosecutors."

Source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37662899

Personal thoughts:
All three of them are ~48 year old. Just saying.

thanks for share.

Since they are not Muslims, the media will never called them terrorists
Just saying

 

[Smart_Guy]

About time someone calling themselves "crusaders" appeared, after so many years of scaremongering about what they were supposed to be doing.

Yeah, much better than being called something by others.

 

[MrMrdevincamus]

"Curtis Allen, 49, Gavin Wright, 49, and Patrick Eugene Stein, 47, had gathered firearms and explosives for the attack, according to the US Justice Department.
The suspects had prepared a manifesto and conspired to detonate a bomb at apartments where Somalis were among some 120 residents, said prosecutors."

Source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37662899

Personal thoughts:
All three of them are ~48 year old. Just saying.

So the Somalis were Muslim and that was their crime? If so and they were not engaging in terrorist or criminal activity then those two who were attempting to bomb the Somalis are just as bad or worse as the ISIS and Islamic terrorist be-headers and other subhuman monsters that take joy in the murder rape and torture of innocents. They are worse because they come from my country and should get the punishment prescribed by the rule of law ASAP.

 

[Jumi]

I think they are already being called terrorist.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

"Curtis Allen, 49, Gavin Wright, 49, and Patrick Eugene Stein, 47, had gathered firearms and explosives for the attack, according to the US Justice Department.
The suspects had prepared a manifesto and conspired to detonate a bomb at apartments where Somalis were among some 120 residents, said prosecutors."

Source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37662899

Personal thoughts:
All three of them are ~48 year old. Just saying.

Just what America needs. More Christian terrorists.

 

[MrMrdevincamus]

Just what America needs. More Christian terrorists.

Christians in name only. Islamic clerics etc interpret the Koran or Quran and other Islamic documents to allow and even order Islamic terrorism. Christians have no such administrative or other mechanism to justify terrorism. Also according to the teachings and history of Jesus he was totally anti violent, even going so far as to admonish one of his disciples who cut the ear off an assassin that was bent on killing Jesus. So christian terrorist is an misnomer.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

You can say that with almost every religion. We already know there are good Muslims as well as bad. Most religions talk about peace anyway. There's very few that are outright evil or at least unethical.

 

[columbus]

thanks for share.

Since they are not Muslims, the media will never called them terrorists
Just saying

Maybe that is the Arabic media. When I google it most reports call them that, often in the headline.

These are not some mentally disturbed loners who snapped. They have been planning this for a long time and the police have been working on it since February. This definitely is terrorism and most everyone agrees with that.
Tom

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

The Christian Terrorists strikes again!
Now domestic.

In the world they kill people celebrating wedding.

 

[Godobeyer]

Maybe that is the Arabic media. When I google it most reports call them that, often in the headline.

These are not some mentally disturbed loners who snapped. They have been planning this for a long time and the police have been working on it since February. This definitely is terrorism and most everyone agrees with that.
Tom

Sorry that's my bad.

That's good progress

 

[LuisDantas]

You can say that with almost every religion.

Actually, no, you can not.

These days it is pretty much restricted to Muslims. In the past Christians gave them some dispute. And that is pretty much it.

 

[columbus]

The Christian Terrorists strikes again!
Now domestic.

In the world they kill people celebrating wedding.

I'm not sure religion is much of the motivation for this.
It sounds more like Trumpish anti-immigrant nativism. I could be wrong. I'm trying not to learn too much about the nasty individuals involved.
Tom

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I'm not sure religion is much of the motivation for this.
It sounds more like Trumpish anti-immigrant nativism. I could be wrong. I'm trying not to learn too much about the nasty individuals involved.
Tom

Columbus dont be naive

They wanted to kill "Muuuzzlims" in the name of cross

 

[columbus]

Columbus dont be naive

They wanted to kill "Muuuzzlims" in the name of cross

I don't think you know nearly as much about USA culture as you think you do.
I don't doubt that these murderous people are Christians. But I doubt that is the motivation. Religious violence isn't really a thing here.
Tom

 

[Shadow Wolf]

These days it is pretty much restricted to Muslims. In the past Christians gave them some dispute. And that is pretty much it.

Christians today still interpret the Bible as a pass on violence (on whacko in I think California was running for office believed we should stone homosexuals). Judaism is what Christianity and Islam are based on. We know many religions have involved human sacrifices, with the Aztecs perhaps having the highest kill-count over religious sacrifices. Even Buddhism has moved people to violence, and it was a Hindu who killed Gandhi.
But, this is people we are talking about. Even the totally peaceful and non-violent Megadeth song A Tout le Monde inspired someone (probably already on edge) to go shoot people. Marxism was wrapped into a brutal totalitarian state, even though Marxism is anti-state. And even with things like the Crusades we can find non-religious motives as possible strong driving forces behind them (or at least the larger and officially Papal-sanctioned Crusades).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't doubt that these murderous people are Christians. But I doubt that is the motivation. Religious violence isn't really a thing here.

I suppose it depends on how you define religious violence, and we do have a long history of it that has targeted various minorities over the years, and even today. The Klan may not be as bad as it was during Reconstruction, but today it's a not a big thing, but religious violence is definitely a thing. Most often when I hear of it, it is a Christian attacking an atheist, a Christian attacking someone who is homosexual or transgender, a Christian attacking Muslims, and though it has been a while there is the Christians who attack abortion clinics and doctors and other employees.

 

[LuisDantas]

Christians today still interpret the Bible as a pass on violence (on whacko in I think California was running for office believed we should stone homosexuals). Judaism is what Christianity and Islam are based on. We know many religions have involved human sacrifices, with the Aztecs perhaps having the highest kill-count over religious sacrifices. Even Buddhism has moved people to violence, and it was a Hindu who killed Gandhi.

That is a jaundiced account of the facts, IMO. Even Christianity is fairly tempered by the spread of laicist values these days.

Pretty much all other situations are either of centuries past or so aberrant that people keep coming to the very same examples, because there are so few.

Much as I would like to believe otherwise (as I did in the past), Islam is indeed very remarkable as a motivator for violence in the present time. Except for minor cults such as Aum Shinrikyo, the only significant religious motivator, even.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Just what America needs. More Christian terrorists.

They were Christians?