A New Dark Age For Europe

[Kangaroo Feathers]

People from the Middle East/Asia country's are branching out throughout the world and procreating with Europians, Americans, etc. In 500 years they will be the majority in many, if not most places. I grew up in a smaller town and there are a lot more there now than there were 45 years ago. Its almost like they are saying if you can't beat them one way, beat them another way.

Unlike "Europians", Americans, etc, obviously.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Ever notice it's the people who loudly declare minorities have it great and shouldn't complain about anything are also the people who seem utterly terrified of becoming minorities?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Well by many I mean that if you do a search and speak to Muslims about Hadiths you can find easily that they are not a completely reliable source of information as there are many fake ones and Hadiths are not the Word of God. Most if not all prejudices against Islam originate from false Hadiths.

This is one site

Hadith and the Corruption of the great religion of Islam | Submission.org - Your best source for Submission (Islam)

List of Fabricated Hadith - WikiIslam

Thing is, Submission.org do not represent the vast majority of Muslims.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Thing is, Submission.org do not represent the vast majority of Muslims.

Yes that’s true. But they are not the only ones.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Yes that’s true. But they are not the only ones.

Rejecters of many/most/all of the Hadith remain very much a minority among Muslims still.

 

[sooda]

Rejecters of many/most/all of the Hadith remain very much a minority among Muslims still.

I don't think that's true.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I don't think that's true.

What sources have we got to go on? I don't know of any surveys which test this exactly. We have those surveys which ask questions about people's denominational affiliations, but I'm not sure that those tell us a great deal.

You have your personal experience/opinion and I have mine. Perhaps that is where we differ. I have mixed with a lot of Muslims of all persuasions. I only rarely come across people who reject many/most/all of the Hadith (I am pretty open-minded, indeed heterodox myself, and someone who isn't bound by the Hadith). Now, perhaps it's true that most don't give it much thought or are uneasy about actively challenging the orthodox thinking. Nevertheless, that still means that rejecters are in the minority, arguably.

 

[sooda]

What sources have we got to go on? I don't know of any surveys which test this exactly. We have those surveys which ask questions about people's denominational affiliations, but I'm not sure that those tell us a great deal.

You have your personal experience/opinion and I have mine. Perhaps that is where we differ. I have mixed with a lot of Muslims of all persuasions. I only rarely come across people who reject many/most/all of the Hadith (I am pretty open-minded, indeed heterodox myself, and someone who isn't bound by the Hadith). Now, perhaps it's true that most don't give it much thought or are uneasy about actively challenging the orthodox thinking. Nevertheless, that still means that rejecters are in the minority, arguably.

Mostly from educated Muslims in Saudi Arabia.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Mostly from educated Muslims in Saudi Arabia.

That's just one section of the Muslim population.

 

[sooda]

That's just one section of the Muslim population.

Correct...…...

 

[Notanumber]

Bill mentions the fact that the UK has plans to make the criticism of Islam illegal at 18 minutes in from the start of this video.

Such laws are already in place in several European countries.

 

[sooda]

Bill mentions the fact that the UK has plans to make the criticism of Islam illegal at 18 minutes in from the start of this video.

Such laws are already in place in several European countries.

That guy is such a hater and so ignorant. Why would anyone listen to Warren?

 

[Notanumber]

That guy is such a hater and so ignorant. Why would anyone listen to Warren?

Because they might want to find out what is happening to their countries before it is too late.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

That guy is such a hater and so ignorant. Why would anyone listen to Warren?

Never underestimate the appeal of being told what you want to believe.

 

[Notanumber]

Never underestimate the appeal of being told what you want to believe.

Never underestimate the appeal of being told facts.

 

[sooda]

Never underestimate the appeal of being told facts.

Warren is an opportunist who has identified his audience.

 

[Notanumber]

Warren is an opportunist who has identified his audience.

I don’t know who Warren is but we need more people of the calibre of Bill Warner that is for sure.

 

[sooda]

I don’t know who Warren is but we need more people of the calibre of Bill Warner that is for sure.

Only if you're promoting ignorance,

 

[Notanumber]

Only if you're promoting ignorance,

Ignorance is the middle name of Political Correctness.

 

[sooda]

Ignorance is the middle name of Political Correctness.

If you mean ignorant people are never polite.. That too is an overstatement.