A new law from Mike Godwin (yes, that Godwin)

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Posted to Twitter by Mike Godwin last month:

It's 99-percent certain that anyone who uses "woke" as pejorative will turn out to be a ****head.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Since reading this, I've been paying more attention to people who use "woke" as an insult and I've gotta say that it seems like he's right.

 

[Revoltingest]

Posted to Twitter by Mike Godwin last month:



https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Since reading this, I've been paying more attention to people who use "woke" as an insult and I've gotta say that it seems like he's right.

I see that he's no longer clever, but still
thinks his 15 minutes are running.

 

[Secret Chief]

Posted to Twitter by Mike Godwin last month:



https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Since reading this, I've been paying more attention to people who use "woke" as an insult and I've gotta say that it seems like he's right.

Come on, woke means awareness of disadvantages so that's gotta be a bad thing surely?

 

[Stevicus]

Posted to Twitter by Mike Godwin last month:



https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Since reading this, I've been paying more attention to people who use "woke" as an insult and I've gotta say that it seems like he's right.

I don't recall where or when I first heard the term "woke" used in this context. It's been within the past 5 or 10 years, although I thought it was created by the younger crowd. It's been even more recently that I learned that it was a pejorative. I thought those who were "woke" were using it to apply to themselves and conservatives just picked up on it.

Is this guy saying that conservatives invented the term?

 

[sun rise]

Being awake is clearly pejorative to some. Caring about one's fellows and about the environment is clearly "woke". Caring about facts is clearly "woke" - just ask Trump and pootin.

 

[Heyo]

Come on, woke means awareness of disadvantages so that's gotta be a bad thing surely?

And here I thought "woke" meant awareness of disadvantages and being a dick about it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Come on, woke means awareness of disadvantages so that's gotta be a bad thing surely?

It's often wielded by people who think they
have "The Truth", & that others can't see it.
It smacks of sanctimony.

 

[Revoltingest]

And here I thought "woke" meant awareness of disadvantages and being a dick about it.

Or in the case of females, being a **** about it.
"Godwin's Law" might be re-written as...
A one hit wonder who had a pithy meme,
but then demonstrated that was all he had.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It's often wielded by people who think they
have "The Truth", & that others can't see it.
It smacks of sanctimony.

I've seen it used as a pejorative by conservatives and "centrists" far more than I've seen anyone seriously use it as a self-identifying label.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've seen it used as a pejorative by conservatives and "centrists" far more than I've seen anyone seriously use it as a self-identifying label.

I've seen it used by liberals (blacks), not just conservatives.
Although the latter have embraced mocking it with a vengeance.
Deservedly so, I say.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I've seen it used by liberals, not just conservatives.
Although the latter have embraced mocking it with
a vengeance. Deservedly so, I say.

Calling people "woke" as a pejorative for, say, supporting same-sex marriage, opposing abortion bans, or suggesting police reform reveals a fundamentally prejudiced perspective more than it says anything about the allegedly "woke" groups.

The Evangelical and theocratic bent that has proliferated in American conservatism in the last few decades doesn't exactly give a promising picture of many "anti-woke" conservatives' priorities.

 

[Revoltingest]

Calling people "woke" as a pejorative for, say, supporting same-sex marriage, opposing abortion bans, or suggesting police reform reveals a fundamentally prejudiced perspective more than it says anything about the allegedly "woke" groups.

That would be a mis-use of "woke" IMO, ie,
mocking something other than the original
or current (evolving) meaning.
Urban Dictionary: Woke

Note...
If "woke" is to be pro-abortion rights, pro gay
marriage, & pro police reform, then "woke" I am.
Do woke folk really want me in their midst? Nah.

 

[Debater Slayer]

That would be a mis-use of "woke" IMO, ie,
mocking something other than the original
or current (evolving) meaning.
Urban Dictionary: Woke

It sure seems that the misuse is now more common than the original use when people use the word as a slur.

 

[Revoltingest]

It sure seems that the misuse is now more common than the original use when people use the word as a slur.

Language evolves.
But it all depends upon who's using the term.

 

[Father Heathen]

I see that he's no longer clever, but still
thinks his 15 minutes are running.

He simply made an astute observation. What does him being clever or having had 15 min of fame have to do with anything? Why the emotional knee-jerk reaction?

 

[Revoltingest]

He simply made an astute observation.

It's just an unimaginative insult.
The bar is much higher for "astute".
But liberals are easily satisfied when the other side is dissed.

 

[Nakosis]

Posted to Twitter by Mike Godwin last month:



https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Since reading this, I've been paying more attention to people who use "woke" as an insult and I've gotta say that it seems like he's right.

I'd suspect the people using the term this way understand it as well.
They are trolling and they know it.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Is this guy saying that conservatives invented the term?

No, he's saying that ****heads were the ones who decided it's an insult.

 

[Nakosis]

It's just an unimaginative insult.
The bar is much higher for "astute".
But liberals are easily satisfied when the other side is dissed.

Yeah, I can imagine how them conservatives are going to be all upset at being called ****heads.
Not.

 

[Stevicus]

No, he's saying that ****heads were the ones who decided it's an insult.

Yeah, I suppose that makes sense. But there's all kinds of terms which get floated about to describe basically the same thing. It seems to vary by generation though.

Back in the day, "bleeding heart liberal" was what "woke" was. When conservatives said it, they said it scornfully, but a lot of liberals took it on as a badge of honor.