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A Note of Thanks to Creationists and Science Deniers

Pogo

Well-Known Member
In other words, you can't answer the question except by guessing. Thank YOU!! :)
On the contrary, we have done paternity tests on monkeys, gorillas chimpanzees and humans etc, The same tests we use in courts to determine paternity or relationship. The same tests we use to identify remains of unknown persons using genetic databases.
It is most definitely not guesswork, If your DNA says the milkman is your father, your mother might as well admit it. :)
You are welcome, I'm glad I could help you with your education.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
On the contrary, we have done paternity tests on monkeys, gorillas chimpanzees and humans etc, The same tests we use in courts to determine paternity or relationship. The same tests we use to identify remains of unknown persons using genetic databases.
It is most definitely not guesswork, If your DNA says the milkman is your father, your mother might as well admit it. :)
You are welcome, I'm glad I could help you with your education.
I have pointed that out to this poster more times than I can count at this point. And still we the same misunderstandings being repeated yet again.
I hope you have better luck getting through than I have!
 

Audie

Veteran Member
On the contrary, we have done paternity tests on monkeys, gorillas chimpanzees and humans etc, The same tests we use in courts to determine paternity or relationship. The same tests we use to identify remains of unknown persons using genetic databases.
It is most definitely not guesswork, If your DNA says the milkman is your father, your mother might as well admit it. :)
You are welcome, I'm glad I could help you with your education.
You cant
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
On the contrary, we have done paternity tests on monkeys, gorillas chimpanzees and humans etc, The same tests we use in courts to determine paternity or relationship. The same tests we use to identify remains of unknown persons using genetic databases.
It is most definitely not guesswork, If your DNA says the milkman is your father, your mother might as well admit it. :)
You are welcome, I'm glad I could help you with your education.
I understand that DNA can be very similar in various entities, but this still does not mean or prove that these organisms evolved from something that had close DNA. It also does not mean that species which cannot interbreed now had interbred in the past, thus producing organisms that evolved to organisms with which they cannot interbreed after a long while.
 

Dimi95

Прaвославие!
In just one verse - Genesis 2:7 - that Adam created from dust of the ground, or soil, only demonstrated that the author(s) of Genesis, whoever he or they) made be, have absolutely no understanding of human biology, no understanding that clay cannot simply or magically transform into organic tissues of human being.
Well , that is why Science defines that with the word 'miracle'.
"an extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agency."

You do know what 'omnipotence' means i suppose?

But that leads to another question:
Existence of divine agency

And do you know what keeping you alive, sustaining your life?

Your metabolism.
False

If their is no body there is nothing to feed and there is no energy neccessary
So the heart is the primary source of Life.
No Heart , No Life.
There are medical cases were pacients who were diagnosed Brain Dead and came back to life.


You know how komplex is the Brain right ?
And this is just one of them.

But even sometimes people who practice Science don't know how to explain how that happend.

The funny thing is that most of these events are connected with religious people.
For sure you can say coincidence , but i don't belive in so many coincidences , do you?

Metabolism is what cause chemical reaction that help sustain tissue functions and cellular functions. Such as for animals, they convert the consumption of food, into energy sources, eg glucose (carbohydrates or sugar). The chemical reaction are speed up by enzymes (proteins).
Fine

But still.
If there is no body , there is no need for energy.

I wonder , how much do you know about the chemical reactions in the Brain?
Let's talk about the chemical reactions that lead you to think what you think.

Why do you belive in what you belive?

Cells are not made of silicate and your organs and tissues are not made of clay, silt or sand. If your cells have silicate, you wouldn’t even be alive.
So now you are using transitivity on what is suppose to be miracle.
As far as i know , it is attributed to divine agency.

But again , existence of Divine Agency

You would ask for evidence , but you know is faith based.

Metabolism also played important roles in the growth of every organism and for biosynthesis. Silicate minerals in soil played no parts in human metabolism.

if you don’t understand then, there are no hope that you will ever understand biology.
Sure , you understand enough of biology.

But you know the answer , no need tl repeat myself.

Jesus quoting from what were prevalent known belief at the time, doesn’t make Genesis creation myth or flood myth, true. All Jesus had done, was revealed that he knew of the story, just as every Jews knew about it back then.
Ok , now we agree

Jesus had in no way ver and validated Genesis creation or flood with superior knowledge of the events. All he has done was used circular reasoning, just as you are doing right now with Jesus.

And btw, you are still yapping on over there being no proofs.

Proofs, or mathematical equations, are merely abstract representations of reality, formulated by people good with maths, but equations are not true until they have been rigorously tested by observations (observations as in evidence, experiments & data). If the evidence & experiments refute a theory or hypothesis, then the maths (proofs) are wrong too.

for years, I have explained to you and to other creationists in threads like this one, not to confuse proof with evidence, as they are two completely different terms with different meanings. it is evidence that important to science, not this proof. But you refused to learn even basic concepts, which mean you don’t want to understand science and the scientific method.

stubborn ignorance is not virtue in science, and yet all you creationists persisted on being deliberately ignorant.

Proofs are used in scientific theories as equations or formulas, they don’t validate theories as being “scientific“ or not…only observable and testable evidence, experiments and data can do that.
I will tell you what is the problem with your consistency on evidence.
You seem to seek evidence where you know that is not based on evidence.

If you don't have DNA test in this moment , which i assume you don't have
, but if you had , someone else like you doesn't , you would not know that your father/mother/son/daughter is your father/mother/son/daughter.
(Only DNA is accurate evidence)

So i think that you are misunderstanding the word "belief" and your world view is based on the fact that you don't know if your father/mother/son/daughter is your father/motjer/son/daughter because of absence of objective evidence.

Again , you are asking for evidence , when you know it is not evidence based.

And the claim is not evidence based , as you already know.

If you don't understand what is faith , i am sorry i can't understand also your view.

I like it here , i like how i am being challanged and all that, but sometimes abusing certain information leads to no common sense.
 
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