A question about rich people.

[Shadow Wolf]

I love that song.

I think all of us card carrying "stuck in the 90s" club members do, lmao.

I may get to see them in September. That would be my first concert in many years.

I hope you get to go and have some fun. You definitely deserve it.

 

[JustGeorge]

I think all of us card carrying "stuck in the 90s" club members do, lmao.

I hope you get to go and have some fun. You definitely deserve it.

Thanks.

Everclear is a bit special to me. I wasn't exposed to decent music(just my mom's country; there were no older siblings or cousins), and Everclear was the first band I found and latched onto. It would mean a lot to me to see them. Without them, I may have had horrible music tastes! Who knows who'd I've have become!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Thanks.

Everclear is a bit special to me. I wasn't exposed to decent music(just my mom's country; there were no older siblings or cousins), and Everclear was the first band I found and latched onto. It would mean a lot to me to see them. Without them, I may have had horrible music tastes! Who knows who'd I've have become!

That's cool. One thing I can say my mom did well was instilling a sense of music appreciation in her kids. And while she didn't expose us to a big variety of genres it was enough to find it easy to like other genres (except country. That's one i just don't like). That Jesus thing I was doing did get inthe way for awhile and impede me some, but the rehabilitation was a success amd my sense of music taste was properly realigned for the likes of Alice Cooper and Pantera amd L7 while throwing the likes of Newsboys, Carmen and Delirious in the trash.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

No, it's a serious question for those blanket condemning and demonizing rich people. I don't think they've really known many, if any at all.

I have. I also live around them and see them at work, too, since I'm right around one of the richest areas of the city. When I was down and out and needed help, none of the wealthy people I know helped me. It was my friends who are also struggling and poor, and Christian organizations. So in my experience, wealthy people tend to hoard their money to themselves, be stingy and cheap with it aside from flashy luxury symbols (oh, don't me started on the rich Karens we get at the store trying to cheat us for discounts they know they're not eligible for) and not help those less fortunate.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I have. I also live around them and see them at work, too, since I'm right around one of the richest areas of the city. When I was down and out and needed help, none of the wealthy people I know helped me. It was my friends who are also struggling and poor, and Christian organizations. So in my experience, wealthy people tend to hoard their money to themselves, be stingy and cheap with it aside from flashy luxury symbols (oh, don't me started on the rich Karens we get at the store trying to cheat us for discounts they know they're not eligible for) and not help those less fortunate.

And those are the ones you've known. My siblings aunt would have gave you the shirt off her back. My mom's friend (his brother was an actor when he lived), he's also very wealthy and he's helped make sure we never went hungry, he evem helped my mom with Christmas a few times. Yeah, I've known some wealthy turds but I've also known some who do share the wealth.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And those are the ones you've known. My siblings aunt would have gave you the shirt off her back. My mom's friend (his brother was an actor when he lived), he's also very wealthy and he's helped make sure we never went hungry, he evem helped my mom with Christmas a few times. Yeah, I've known some wealthy turds but I've also known some who do share the wealth.

Well, I don't know them. I used church sandwich lines and pantries to avoid going hungry. I don't have Christmas or holiday celebrations unless someone is nice enough to invite me over for dinner, which hardly ever happens. Don't remember the last time I got a Christmas or Birthday gift. I don't really celebrate holidays anymore because of this. They're for other people with families and loved ones, not me.

 

[JustGeorge]

I have a friend that used to panhandle, and said he made more on the poor side of town. He said on the wealthier side of town, a few would give a lot, but on the poor side, most would give a little, and he'd end up with more at the end of the day on the poor side.

I also remember being a teen and my friends and I wanting to buy a pop, and having no money. So, we took a guitar to the park downtown, set up a sign that said "Buy Us A Pop, Please". Some of the local homeless folks were coming through the park and pooled their change and threw it in our guitar case, and stopped to enjoy some amateur music. It was a great time. (And then we bought a 2 liter of soda. )

 

[Yerda]

I have heard that most rich people are mean and right out snobs.Is this stereotypical?Or is it true?

I think the rule is, for any significant chunk of society it breaks down as 1:3:1. Total ***** : normal ***** : good *****.

Rich people are wealthy enough that 1) they feel the drive to accumulate more than the rest of us, 2) the psychos among them can cause obscene amounts of trouble.

 

[Debater Slayer]

One thing that has crossed my mind before is that a lot of currently decent people might act very differently if they knew that wealth was awaiting them or could be significantly grown. For instance, when I first read and listened to some of what Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Bill Gates had to say, they generally seemed like relatable and down-to-earth people. In a sense, they even seemed like role models in specific ways, if one were to focus only on how they presented and what they had achieved.

But then I read more about their history and the abusive practices, exploitation, and other unethical things they had done to help themselves make and grow their wealth. I was shocked to find out just how nasty and deeply unscrupulous they had all been at multiple points in their careers: mistreating employees (e.g., by overworking and underpaying them and, in Musk's case, firing them for disagreeing with him despite his claims of being a "free speech absolutist"), engaging in shady practices to evade higher taxes, unethically ruining competitors in order to monopolize the market, and, in Musk's case (again), topping off all of his other dubious practices with baselessly accusing someone of pedophilia and implying that another was supporting grooming—and this is not a remotely exhaustive list of the three men's excesses.

It makes me wonder how many people who may be currently decent could change if they found themselves in the same situation as Musk, Gates, or Bezos and had similar power and influence. It's easy to say that one would never be as abusive or nasty as those men have been on many occasions even if one became similarly rich, but it's much harder to know that with certainty or to know exactly how one would act under those circumstances. I like to think that I would still strive to live up to my values just as I strive to do so now, but I can't claim to be absolutely, unquestionably certain about how I would act in such a situation either.

 

[vulcanlogician]

I have heard that most rich people are mean and right out snobs.Is this stereotypical?Or is it true?

As others have pointed out, this is a generalization. Like most stereotypes, it is true sometimes. But most individuals in any given group will be the exception to the rule as far as stereotypes go. So this is not a good way of judging people. You could do the same thing with poor and working class people. These folks are, by certain accounts, prone to more criminal behavior... especially violent crime. Does this make it true that most working class people value the law less than those with more wealth?

If you were to go around cataloging the value systems of many individuals, being sure to note their annual income for each one, and then trace lines around the value systems according to income, I think you WOULD find a different value system (generally) for the rich and for the poor.

But this doesn't say a single thing about your average rich person. It may not even say much about rich people as a whole. You would undoubtedly find overlap in the values.. ie. values shared regardless of income.

 

[Kfox]

Isn’t it the love of money that was said by St Paul to be the root of all evil?

Actually I think it is more accurate to claim that the Lack of money is the root of all evil. There has been soooo much evil committed due to people trying to get more money.

 

[kadzbiz]

I have heard that most rich people are mean and right out snobs.Is this stereotypical?Or is it true?

Money just amplifies who you already are.

 

[Sand Dancer]

No, it's a serious question for those blanket condemning and demonizing rich people. I don't think they've really known many, if any at all.

I guess the difference is knowing about and actually knowing them.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Money just amplifies who you already are.

Like alcohol.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Yes, many of them are. It's a stereotype for a reason.

Not pushing back on this stereotype, as I honestly am unsure where the line on 'rich' is, or how to judge it.

But there are plenty of stereotypes through history that exist for reasons other than factual accuracy.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Rich enough to own a multimillion dollar house and own a Porsche.

Based on this, I'm not rich.
When I lived in PNG (my first year out of uni) I was seen as rich.
And an *******, possibly...lol

 

[Shadow Wolf]

the psychos among them can cause obscene amounts of trouble.

That one is especially true.