Trailblazer
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Bahais only believe we are a newer religion and the religion that contains the message, teachings and laws that humanity needs in the present age.As you know, I was going to Baha'i meetings and even went with Baha'is to some of their "mass teaching" events. I was taught that it is the true message from God for today. None of the other religions have this new information. That kind of makes the Baha'i faith better and truer, if not even superior to all the others... if what they claim is true. Why do you believe that the Baha'i Faith is not better, truer, or superior to the other religions? Especially, when another Baha'is gives us reasons to believe it is?
Baha'is do not think they are better, truer, or superior to the other religions, not if they read and understand what Baha'u'llah wrote:
"Beware, O believers in the Unity of God, lest ye be tempted to make any distinction between any of the Manifestations of His Cause, or to discriminate against the signs that have accompanied and proclaimed their Revelation. This indeed is the true meaning of Divine Unity, if ye be of them that apprehend and believe this truth. Be ye assured, moreover, that the works and acts of each and every one of these Manifestations of God, nay whatever pertaineth unto them, and whatsoever they may manifest in the future, are all ordained by God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose. Whoso maketh the slightest possible difference between their persons, their words, their messages, their acts and manners, hath indeed disbelieved in God, hath repudiated His signs, and betrayed the Cause of His Messengers.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 59-60
This is the Baha'i message I always heard. It's a message I disagree with. A new religion didn't always renew another. Maybe, for some, Buddhas teachings renewed what some Hindus believed. Then the Christian message renewed the beliefs of some Jews. But for many years, and maybe even centuries, most of the people in the world never heard of some of these religions. So, how could they renew anything?
Apparently you have misconception about what the Baha'i Faith teaches. We do not teach that each successive religion renews the religion that was revealed before it. For example, Buddhism did not renew Hinduism, Christianity did not renew Judaism, and the Baha'i Faith did not renew Islam. Rather, what happens is that the religion of God, which is really only one religion that is revealed by Messengers who appear in different ages, is renewed over time. Whenever each religion has fulfilled its purpose, God sends a new Messenger to reveal a new religion.Did the teachings of Krishna renew the teachings of Moses? Or vice a versa, depending on who Baha'is believe came first. Same with Christianity, how did it renew the teachings of the Buddha?
“And now concerning thy question regarding the nature of religion. Know thou that they who are truly wise have likened the world unto the human temple. As the body of man needeth a garment to clothe it, so the body of mankind must needs be adorned with the mantle of justice and wisdom. Its robe is the Revelation vouchsafed unto it by God. Whenever this robe hath fulfilled its purpose, the Almighty will assuredly renew it. For every age requireth a fresh measure of the light of God. Every Divine Revelation hath been sent down in a manner that befitted the circumstances of the age in which it hath appeared.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 81
And with a religion like Christianity, when do Baha'is say was their spring and summer? And when do Baha'is believe that Christianity ever taught the real truth? They believe in hell and Satan... in the resurrection and that Jesus was God. All things that Baha'is say are not true. Yet, Christian spread this message as if it was the new truth from God.
“All that lives, and this includes the religions, have springtime, a time of maturity, of harvest and wintertime. Then religion becomes barren, a lifeless adherence to the letter uninformed by the spirit, and man’s spiritual life declines. When we look at religious history, we see that God has spoken to men precisely at times when they have reached the nadir of their degradation and cultural decadence. Moses came to Israel when it was languishing under the Pharaoh’s yoke, Christ appeared at a time when the Jewish Faith had lost its power and culture of antiquity was in its death those. Muhammad came to a people who lived in barbaric ignorance at the lowest level of culture and into a world in which the former religions had strayed far away from their origins and nearly lost their identity. The Bab addressed Himself to a people who had irretrievably lost their former grandeur and who found themselves in a state of hopeless decadence. Baha’u’llah came to a humanity which was approaching the most critical phase of its history.”And don't Baha'is believe their winter was already happening when Muhammad came? Since Baha'is believe he was the one that God sent to renew religion. But Christianity kept growing long after that. Then it renewed itself with the Protestant Reformation that went back to the basics of belief based on the teaching in their Scriptures. Which still included beliefs that Baha'is say are not true.
(Udo Schaefer, The Light Shineth in Darkness, p. 24)
The springtime for Christianity is when Jesus walked the earth and for a few centuries after that. Christianity reached its peak of summer after the gospel message had been spread all over the world, by the mid-19th century. Christianity reached its maturity and harvest a long time ago, and now it is in its wintertime. The same can be said for Islam, although Islam is not in late winter but rather still in fall.
The growth rates of religions is a rough guide to what season a religion is in.
The growth rates of the Abrahamic religions from 1910-2010 were as follows: Judaism .11%, Christianity 1.32%, Islam 1.97%, and Baha’i Faith 3.54%.
From 2000-2010 Islam became the fastest growing religion (1.86 %) and the Baha’i Faith was the second fastest growing religion (1.72%). Christianity is trailing behind at 1.31%.
Statistics from: Growth of religion - Wikipedia
The growth rates of the Baha’i Faith were higher than Islam from 1910 to 2010 because it includes the “formative age” of the Baha’i Faith (1921-1944)FOURTH PERIOD: THE INCEPTION OF THE FORMATIVE AGE OF THE BAHÁ’Í FAITH 1921–1944
Growth of the Baha’i Faith has slowed down since 2000 because the new goal is consolidation and community building, so the emphasis is not spreading the Faith all over the world as it was before in the 20th century.
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