Not to derail the thread… one is spiritual and one isn’t?
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A question for all religious believers -- why is your religion more true than any other?
- Thread starter Evangelicalhumanist
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I don't really see it as a matter of being "right" or "wrong" or "correct" or "incorrect" or any other such judgement. Neither I nor any other human - again, barring significant cognitive impairment - can avoid having a worldview. It just... is.
Eh? Sure, why not. Those aren't really questions I ask. So yeah, sure. Or not. Maybe both. Or neither. Roll a 1d4 and let's go with whatever it lands on. And if this sounds flippant, it is and it isn't. The problem of knowledge runs long and deep in the tradition of critical thought and philosophy - with many possible resolutions. I am not interested in assessing "comport" - I am interested in understanding them on their own merits.
I've sat in airports with my Gurus, as well as witnessed Buddhist monks waiting for flights. It is interesting for sure. Some people walk right by, and plainly don't notice, while others would catch a glimpse, and just stare, as if they were a devotee of 50 years. Personally, I touch the feet of any Swami I see, and do namaskaram to Buddhist monks. I think they appreciate the fact that another person with a dharmic view of the world happened by.
The highlighted portion is a truth proposition. Surely you said it because you think it's so?
Yeah, that's a decent way of putting it.
Even where epistemology is concerned, I pretty much feel each individual is the primary authority for their own chosen worldview or framing of things anyway. Whatever they say, goes - for them. I am not them. I do not get to focus some mind control beam into their brains to force them to doing things my way. And even if I could, I shudder at the thought of doing so. Ideological diversity is a source of such fascination to me that I would be killing something I take much joy and interest in. I don't really care about "right" or "correct" as much as just observing and watching and leaning. This is part of what drove me to be a career scientist at one time - impartial observation over making value judgements. In spite of how sciences often get characterized, it's a descriptive not a prescriptive endeavor.
Secret Chief
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I didn't used to be wrong but now I am. And because I drink my coffee decaff I'm shunned by both sects.Haha... there might be something to that.
I mean, the things I go "I'm right and you're wrong" about are things like tea. If you do not like tea, there is just something wrong with you, full stop. Not liking tea is akin to not liking water, sheesh!
In all honesty, any that are not Abrahamic.
I fully consider the Abrahamics faulty, even crippled due to this eccentricity of theirs.
No idea of what that would mean.
If what I said is a truth position, then everything is true. And everything is false. Nothing is true. Nothing is false. It all depends on point of view. But nothing depends on point of view. Possibly both. Or neither.
Secret Chief
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I don't.
The pushback from people insisting I'm wrong about people believing that others who disagree with them are wrong is ironic.
If her goal was to reach some sort of epistemological absolute, I suppose it would be.In other words, your position here is literally self-defeating.
It clearly is not.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
And the fence you're sitting on doesn't exist.
Secret Chief
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And possibly educational.
I am constantly educated about new zany things people believe on RF that I never thought anyone could possibly really believe.
Father Heathen
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...and all of the oatmeal you could eat?
InChrist
Free4ever
So am I.
In seriousness, though, a radically impractical embrace of paradox is something that roots my worldview that I do not often discuss much. In the day-to-day, it is not very useful beyond promoting a sort of cultural humility and respect for the way all peoples tell their stories. Less focus on "oh ho ho, I gotta be right!" and more focus on "oh ho ho, look at this!" Go figure, as curiosity was cultivated in me from a young age far more than authoritarian obey me obey me rhetoric.And the fence you're sitting on doesn't exist.
Actually, the food was very good! Yes, oatmeal some mornings (which is okay because I like oatmeal -- made some this morning!). But it was a "self-serve" breakfast in the school dining room, so there were other choices, cold cereals, eggs (boiled, fried, etc.), toast and jam/peanut butter, etc. Lunch, admittedly, was sometimes "something unnamed on toast," (aka "**** on a shingle") but you get used to that sort of thing. Dinner was generally quite edible (served at mid-day on Sunday, which was always a roast of some sort).
Oh, and besides oatmeal, something you've probably never heard of, but I used to love, "Red River Cereal." Only available in the US via mail-order from Canada!