a question for atheists and theists

[dust1n]

to atheists- what is more valuable to you as a prson, a ground breaking discovery of science or sharing a smile with a loved one?

Why are they exclusive?

 

[waitasec]

Why are they exclusive?

they don't have to be...

 

[Riverwolf]

i like that..

but i'd like to dig deeper..it that's possible

is the love you experience from an external source more valuable than your internal source?

Again, what's the difference?

 

[SMSummer]

sharing a smile with a loved one

 

[waitasec]

Again, what's the difference?

so there is no difference between the two...
ok i think i see, love ultimately comes from one source.

 

[waitasec]

sharing a smile with a loved one

hi, and welcome to the forum...
thank you for sharing.

 

[dust1n]

they don't have to be...

Oh, well in that case, I guess it would defend on what family and what kinda technological breakthrough we are talking about here. I don't really care too much about the IPhone 8S, but if it somehow doubles food production, I'd pick the breakthrough.

 

[Riverwolf]

so there is no difference between the two...
ok i think i see, love ultimately comes from one source.

That's exactly how I see it.

 

[work in progress]

to atheists- what is more valuable to you as a prson, a ground breaking discovery of science or sharing a smile with a loved one?

I'll go with the second! I get a little uncomfortable with scientific triumphalism that may supposed rationalists think they possess. And the way the internet has created an atheist humanist pseudo-religion, often with principles and ethics that are given a priori, as statements of faith and never explained clearly how they derive from science or our understanding of human evolutionary history.

 

[waitasec]

I'll go with the second! I get a little uncomfortable with scientific triumphalism that may supposed rationalists think they possess. And the way the internet has created an atheist humanist pseudo-religion, often with principles and ethics that are given a priori, as statements of faith and never explained clearly how they derive from science or our understanding of human evolutionary history.

you've got a simplistic way of putting things

 

[waitasec]

Oh, well in that case, I guess it would defend on what family and what kinda technological breakthrough we are talking about here. I don't really care too much about the IPhone 8S, but if it somehow doubles food production, I'd pick the breakthrough.

how about the loved one to whom you connect with most vs. ableton live 9?

 

[painted wolf]

I have a family (including a large number of grandkids) that I love and appreciate more than I could ever adequately express. That said, I choose the "ground breaking discovery of science" that serves humanity.

(I would be curious to know what percentage of theists believe in revelation.)

I suppose it would depend on how you defined revelation.

I certainly don't believe that particular people have direct lines to the divine and get regular updates. I do think that people get moments of clarity (divine or otherwise) that can help humanity advance in significant ways.
I also think the majority of these things are singular events... and that they can be milked by the unscrupulous.

wa:do

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

so here is the question...
to theists- what is more valuable to you as a person, a revelation of some sort from god or sharing a smile with a loved one?

to atheists- what is more valuable to you as a prson, a ground breaking discovery of science or sharing a smile with a loved one?

I have a family (including a large number of grandkids) that I love and appreciate more than I could ever adequately express. That said, I choose the "ground breaking discovery of science" that serves humanity.

(I would be curious to know what percentage of theists believe in revelation.)

I suppose it would depend on how you defined revelation.

I certainly don't believe that particular people have direct lines to the divine and get regular updates. I do think that people get moments of clarity (divine or otherwise) that can help humanity advance in significant ways.

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