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A Question for Theists and Non-Theists
- Thread starter Philomath
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Probably only a personal experience/revelation.
Even then I'd be checking myself for a fever.
Even then I'd be checking myself for a fever.
He would have to appear, chat with me, impress me deeply and show in no unclear terms that he is the real deal, I suppose.
And even then I would wonder if I am hallucinating. I'm not prone to that kind of experience, but it is a far more reasonable explanation than the face value interpretation.
Edited to add: I do not expect that it would be a particularly meaningful experience, though. Which may be in fact a reason for he not to appear to me even if he exists. I have long concluded that regardless of God's hypothetical existence, it is very unlikely that he would find a need for us Atheists to believe in him.
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If I stopped believing in God, it would non-belief in a personal God. That might come about through reflection on the nature of the universe and existence. I have, for a very long time, leaned towards deism. Currently the face of God is a Hindu one. Even if God becomes faceless and impersonal again, I highly doubt I would ever become atheist or agnostic.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
Personal experience of a deity that has a definition that is logically sustainable, with evidence of a naturalistic type.
I don't know. There are certain things that I can't answer unless I am faced with it and this is one of them.
It would take a removal of a very important part of my identity.
Even if it were definitively proven that no Gods exist, my behavior would still be as if they did.
I agree but it would be a lot of information. It took 48 years to get where I am now.
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
I am neither theist nor atheist so there is really nothing to make be not believe in a god or believe in one.
My approach is not relative to either. I am exempt from this issue you could say.
My approach is not relative to either. I am exempt from this issue you could say.
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Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
I feel that I found a form of "in between." To become a full fledged theist, I want God to speak directly to me in a clear and understandable voice. No some ghost whisper stuff, but real stuff. Even maybe see an angel or two. Or God could take me to heaven and show me, like he's done with a few other select people. Why can't I be one of the selected?
I consider panentheist (even though "theist" is in the name) to be a form of non-theism, so no need to change my mind there.
I was 46 when my mind last changed.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
That sounds very sanitary.I try to change my mind once a day...
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
That sounds very sanitary.
Well, you know the Queen of Hearts, trying to believe at least six impossible things before breakfast, or something like that.
AmbiguousGuy
Well-Known Member
What if you wake up in a lab surrounded by humanoid robots who are discussing how they have reconstituted you from your DNA and the brain scan which you had on your deathbed?
But then you hear a godlike voice chuckling in a sort of voiceover about how He's trying to trick you into believing that you're being reconstituted from DNA?
But then you notice the robots have a tape recorder and the godlike voice kinda seems like it's coming from there?
But then the Voice chides the robots to put the recorder down and stop trying to make you think He isn't real.
But then you suspect that the chiding Voice might be coming from the tape recorder itself.
But then....
Whenever an atheist insists that gods are obviously fake, I see him just as I see the theists who insist on the opposite. One has chosen the robots and the tape recorder. The other has chosen the Voice.
Me, I just enjoy watching all the trickery.
Philomath
Sadhaka
If you don't want to answer that's cool but Non-Theist doesn't apply solely to Atheists.