A question

[Starsoul]

I wanted to know what kosher meat really means for jews? And what about pig fat (animal fat) being used in products, i.e if pig fat is being used in ice creams or desserts, do they have it and are they religiously allowed to consume it?

 

[TalAbrams]

I believe the Talmud allows for a 1/60 part of non-kosher in certain cases but I am no where near a scholar so I cannot be sure.
Talmud is not for the faint of heart.
But for a general answer to your querie, No, we cannot consume anything non kosher.
Kosher meaning fit for human consumption according to Torah.
Pork is the one everybody knows but shellfish is a close second.
No shrimp, lobster, etc.
No catfish because even though it has fins it does not have scales.
No quadruped predators.
I believe we can eat giraffe but who would unless they were starving.

 

[Starsoul]

Thanks for your answer. What about alcohol, is that kosher in judaism/talmud?

 

[Rakhel]

Alcohol, like food, depends on the a lot on who's hechsher you follow. It can get a little nuts sometimes. There are kosher wines, and some kosher beers and some Kosher hard liquors out there.

 

[HiddenDjinn]

Most beer is Kosher. Wines, however, usually aren't.

 

[Starsoul]

Thank you all for your replies : )

 

[Caladan]

Hi Starsoul,

Kosher in general means you can eat fish, chicken and beef (and sheep, goats meat, and a few other mediterranean animals).
as for alcohol. a moderate and often symbolic wine consumption is part of Jewish rituals, such as every friday evening when receiveing the Sabbath.
however, the Hebrew bible gives us dietry tips about meat consumption and alcohol consumption.
the bible tells us that the king of Babylon enjoyed a diet which was rich in wine and meat. Daniel, the prophet, who was a member of the royal court , challenged the king and instructed a band of men to test themselves and keep away from wine and meat for a short duration of time, in order to discover the health benefits they will gain from doing so. he then compares these handful of men to other men who do drink alcohol and consume meat regulary, in order to show the king the benefists he will gain by slightly and moderatly changing his diet.

 

[Peace]

Kosher in general means you can eat fish, chicken and beef. when discussing the animal kingdom.

Hi Caladan,

May I ask if the slaughtering rituals of Jewish people resembles those of Muslim? I heare frequently that in case of absence of Halal meat one can substitute it with kosher?

 

[Caladan]

Hi Caladan,

May I ask if the slaughtering rituals of Jewish people resembles those of Muslim? I heare frequently that in case of absence of Halal meat one can substitute it with kosher?

Hi peace,
I've seen Jews eating halal meat when they are in a non kosher food environment.
in general the slaughter method is by cutting the throat of the animal.

 

[Peace]

Hi peace,
I've seen Jews eating halal meat when they are in a non kosher food environment.
in general the slaughter method is by cutting the throat of the animal.

Chokran for your answer

 

[Caladan]

You are welcome Peace

 

[Rakhel]

Caladan is right. The closest Kosher butcher to us is about a 2 hr bus ride from us. No way I am bring that home on via train, then ferry, then bus. However, there is a store near by that does sell Halah meat. So we compromise.


Plus, sometimes we get more for the same price as the non-Kosher meats.

 

[Flankerl]

I believe we can eat giraffe but who would unless they were starving.

Yes giraffe is kosher. But i think the people at the zoo might take offense in me trying to lead one of their giraffes to a butcher....

Caladan is right. The closest Kosher butcher to us is about a 2 hr bus ride from us. No way I am bring that home on via train, then ferry, then bus. However, there is a store near by that does sell Halah meat. So we compromise.


Plus, sometimes we get more for the same price as the non-Kosher meats.

I could do the same but i dont.
There is no jewish butcher or shop nearby who sells kosher meat. And with nearby i mean for the next 200km.
Though once a month our congregation buys meat in hannover which gets delivered to the the community/synagogue.

So eating meat is a bit rarer for us than in the average home in germany.

 

[Rakhel]

That is what we do. Not all Jews buy Halah. If we could afford fish, we would eat more of it, and it has to be fresh. As it is, fish is a once a month luxury. But not tuna. I can't stand tuna.

 

[Tarheeler]

Unfortunately, we have neither a kosher or halal butcher anywhere around here. The closest I've heard of is in Charlotte, which is close to fours away.

But I have found a brand of wine sold locally with the OU hechsher; comes in grape, blackberry, and peach.

 

[Levite]

It's also worth noting that high-quality kosher meat-- including some more exotic choices-- can easily be ordered online, as can excellent kosher wines from around the world.

 

[Levite]

It's also worth noting that high-quality kosher meat-- including some more exotic choices-- can easily be ordered online, as can excellent kosher wines from around the world.

And it's also worth noting (purely for educational purposes, and not to criticize any individual's behavior) that, technically, halal meat is not considered halachically to be kosher, regardless of the similarities in Muslim and Jewish ritual slaughter practices.

Edit: sorry for the double post.