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A rare occurence from God

djhwoodwerks

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The 144,000 are anointed

Please kjw47, provide scripture to back claims like this. Where does it say the 144,000 are anointed?


Jesus promised them the EARTH at Matt 5:5

Matthew 5:5 (ESV Strong's) 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Where pray tell do you get that Jesus is talking about a "great crowd" from that verse?

What about this verse,

Matthew 5:3 (ESV Strong's) 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Aren't/weren't you poor in spirit kjw47?


The whole reason--one flock is divided into 2 groups-

Please provide scripture where there are Jesus divides the righteous into TWO groups.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Please kjw47, provide scripture to back claims like this. Where does it say the 144,000 are anointed?




Matthew 5:5 (ESV Strong's) 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Where pray tell do you get that Jesus is talking about a "great crowd" from that verse?

What about this verse,

Matthew 5:3 (ESV Strong's) 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Aren't/weren't you poor in spirit kjw47?




Please provide scripture where there are Jesus divides the righteous into TWO groups.



Gods kingdom is in heaven at present. Jesus brings it to the earth at Har-mageddon--1000 year reign-no satan influences. The throne is in heaven. When Jesus brings Gods kingdom rule with him. no matter where one stands they will be standing before the throne, it will be the only ruling power in existence( Daniel 2:44)--Revelation says--they( great multitude) will be standing before the throne--it says nothing about going to heaven. Twisting it does.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
it will be the only ruling power in existence( Daniel 2:44)- Twisting it.
It is possible that they have all mistranslated Daniel 44 and what it really says is that "it will be as though crushed by all those nations but it will stand forever." You know yourself that not everyone is aware of its rule. It is only those who have faith in God who can see it. It has always ruled God's people and it will always rule God's people. But, to everyone else, it is as though it is crushed.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Please kjw47, provide scripture to back claims like this. Where does it say the 144,000 are anointed?




Matthew 5:5 (ESV Strong's) 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Where pray tell do you get that Jesus is talking about a "great crowd" from that verse?

What about this verse,

Matthew 5:3 (ESV Strong's) 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Aren't/weren't you poor in spirit kjw47?




Please provide scripture where there are Jesus divides the righteous into TWO groups.


Luke 12:32=Rev 14:3-- The great multitude are the rest.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Luke 12:32

Ah yes, the infamous Luke 12:32, taken out of context! How bout the following verses kjw47, they don't apply to your "real teachers"?

Luke 12:33-34 (ESV Strong's) 3 Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Why are your "real teachers" building an empire, especially since we are near the end, when Jesus told them to, "SELL THEIR POSSESSIONS AND GIVE TO THE NEEDY"?

Why do your "real teachers" need all the property they buy up and re-sell?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Ah yes, the infamous Luke 12:32, taken out of context! How bout the following verses kjw47, they don't apply to your "real teachers"?

Luke 12:33-34 (ESV Strong's) 3 Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Why are your "real teachers" building an empire, especially since we are near the end, when Jesus told them to, "SELL THEIR POSSESSIONS AND GIVE TO THE NEEDY"?

Why do your "real teachers" need all the property they buy up and re-sell?



They were very wise to get out of NYC. All the work being accomplished cannot be done out in the woods now can it.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
You just can't answer a question plainly, can you?


How could I know? I am not them, I cannot read their minds, I don't what God told them about that situation---NEITHER DO YOU. When one reasons on a matter they have no clue about--99.9 x out of 100 they are in error.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
How could I know? I am not them, I cannot read their minds, I don't what God told them about that situation---NEITHER DO YOU. When one reasons on a matter they have no clue about--99.9 x out of 100 they are in error.

I see, you know 100% fact that when Jesus said to His disciples, "little flock", He was talking to your "real teachers", and that there are only 144,000, but when He said, in the exact same breath, "sell your possessions and give to the poor", you don't know if He meant that for your "real teachers" or just the disciples He was talking to. So your "real teachers" and you, pick and choose what was meant for the disciples Jesus was talking to and what is meant for your "real teachers", even tho it can all be in one talk by Jesus?
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
When one reasons on a matter they have no clue about--99.9 x out of 100 they are in error.

That's only in your false religion kjw47! YOU are taught that you are stupid and can't understand anything unless your "real teachers" tells you what it means.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I see, you know 100% fact that when Jesus said to His disciples, "little flock", He was talking to your "real teachers", and that there are only 144,000, but when He said, in the exact same breath, "sell your possessions and give to the poor", you don't know if He meant that for your "real teachers" or just the disciples He was talking to. So your "real teachers" and you, pick and choose what was meant for the disciples Jesus was talking to and what is meant for your "real teachers", even tho it can all be in one talk by Jesus?


The little flock-leads Jesus flock on earth. Jesus reveals truth through the little flock.
And did you hear what Jesus said about them???? He said -perse-- Whatever you do to these the least of my brothers, you do to me. That is why-Luke 10:16 applys to them here in these last days as it did in his day after he was gone.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
That's only in your false religion kjw47! YOU are taught that you are stupid and can't understand anything unless your "real teachers" tells you what it means.


Funny--Have you missed these facts--34,000 different religions claiming to be Christian, all of creation sees a mass of confusion. All claim to be lead by Holy spirit-Huh. God never had more than a single religion--united in love, peace and unity Jesus said--not a mass of confusion--one religion-1Cor 1:10)
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The little flock-leads Jesus flock on earth. Jesus reveals truth through the little flock.
And did you hear what Jesus said about them???? He said -perse-- Whatever you do to these the least of my brothers, you do to me. That is why-Luke 10:16 applys to them here in these last days as it did in his day after he was gone.
I was told by a Jehovah's Witness that the governing body can't be called leaders because Jesus leads and so she calls them "organizers". :D Either she is wrong or you are.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Funny--Have you missed these facts--34,000 different religions claiming to be Christian, all of creation sees a mass of confusion. All claim to be lead by Holy spirit-Huh. God never had more than a single religion--united in love, peace and unity Jesus said--not a mass of confusion--one religion-1Cor 1:10)
It is amazing, is it not? that all the other religions called Christian do not condemn you as a Jehovah's Witness, but, you condemn all others. Is this not so? So it is the JWs who are not united with Jesus in love and unity with him and them.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You @kjw and Jehovah's Witnesses are not united with Jesus for PEACE because you can't stop arguing what God and Jesus look like ie, not a trinity. It is really and truly arguing for image worship. In other words, for the right kind of image worship.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I understand the point of preaching no stupid god-damn hell of suffering in dead flesh. But, maybe that would have gone away all on its own, seeing that is is so very, very ridiculous.
 
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