A simple question for creationists.

[Krok]

No assumptions were made? And no one is trying to yank my chain?

How much do you know about carbon dating? Could you describe the methods of how C 14 is made? (Let me give a little bit of advice, it's not just in the atmosphere. ) Apart from in the atmosphere, please describe only one other way C14 is made. Please then also describe why you won't expect to get a zero-reading for C14 in anything.

Let me guess, your answer will be some vague form of goading?

Oh, goody, goody, goody. I know a little bit about carbon dating. Could you describe the assumptions you think real geochronologists make in carbon dating?

 

[Krok]

Yes. Other methods that are just as questionable....

Are you telling untruths? Modern dating methods certainly are not questionable and when their applications overlap, they produce very similar results. I think that you are telling untruths.

.... and that still doesn't answer why carbon 14 is even found in dinosaur bones.

I think that you're not telling the truth here. Could you give me a reference of where C-14 was found in dinosaur bones?

Other then, it seeped in somehow. There is no evidence to show how it got there.

C-14 in dinosaur bones? I don't think that you are telling the truth.

These aren't underwater.

You don't make sense.

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

Native Americans believe there were animals on the earth before the earth was organized for man.

 

[painted wolf]

Native Americans believe there were animals on the earth before the earth was organized for man.

Most anyway.

And most nations realize that humans are related to animals as well, though most pegged the Bear as the closest... not a big surprise, given some aspects of anatomy and the lack of apes for comparison.

wa:do

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

I believe that the matter the earth is made out of has always existed and when God created the earth he just organized that matter.
It is possible that the dinosaurs came from that unorganized matter, however I like to lean on the possibility of in the beginning man co-existing with the dinosaurs.

 

[Looncall]

I believe that the matter the earth is made out of has always existed and when God created the earth he just organized that matter.
It is possible that the dinosaurs came from that unorganized matter, however I like to lean on the possibility of in the beginning man co-existing with the dinosaurs.

Why do you believe this stuff when it has been clearly shown not to be true? You act as if modern science never happened.

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

Why do you believe this stuff when it has been clearly shown not to be true? You act as if modern science never happened.

Believe stuff like the universe has always existed, or the possibility of Man co-existing with dinosaurs?

Is there really any way to trace how old an atom is? If so I have never heard of any. Is there any way to trace how old the universe is? If so I have never heard of any.

as to the dinosaurs, I never said I believed that man and dinosaur co-existed, its more of a hope, kind of like I hope someday they will actually be able to clone a dinosaur like on Jurassic Park.

Do you know how a star is formed? Where did the matter come from to create that star? What about planets? Where does that matter come from? Is there any knowledge of the matter used to make a star or planet just popping into existence, or did it come from somewhere else?
I don't see what is so illogical about believing that God did not make the earth just pop into existence out of nothing.

 

[PolyHedral]

Is there any way to trace how old the universe is? If so I have never heard of any.

Astronomical observation shows the universe to be 13 billion years old, at minimum.

Do you know how a star is formed? Where did the matter come from to create that star? What about planets? Where does that matter come from? Is there any knowledge of the matter used to make a star or planet just popping into existence, or did it come from somewhere else?

All the matter comes from the Big Bang. Before you ask, it is not a meaningful question to ask "Where did the Big Bang come from?"

 

[Dirty Penguin]

or the possibility of Man co-existing with dinosaurs?

There is no evidence to support this notion. All modern evidences point to the opposite.

Is there really any way to trace how old an atom is? If so I have never heard of any.

Why would you need to know? And which types of atoms are you referring to?

Is there any way to trace how old the universe is? If so I have never heard of any.

Surely you can't be serious. I'm sure you haven't been hiding under a rock or in a cave all your life.

This should help.... WMAP- Age of the Universe

as to the dinosaurs, I never said I believed that man and dinosaur co-existed, its more of a hope,

The evidence shows we didn't

kind of like I hope someday they will actually be able to clone a dinosaur like on Jurassic Park.

It would be irresponsible to do so. Even as overly dramatic as the movies were they raise a good point. Additionally our environment has changed significantly over the million upon millions of years. This fact may be do, in part, as to why most dinosaur species died out.

Do you know how a star is formed? Where did the matter come from to create that star? What about planets? Where does that matter come from? Is there any knowledge of the matter used to make a star or planet just popping into existence, or did it come from somewhere else?

These are sophomoric questions that can be answered by a simple Google search.

I don't see what is so illogical about believing that God did not make the earth just pop into existence out of nothing.

Which is why you shall remain closed minded. We know for a fact how the earth was formed and it was all through natural processes over billions of years.

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

There is no evidence to support this notion. All modern evidences point to the opposite.



Why would you need to know? And which types of atoms are you referring to?



Surely you can't be serious. I'm sure you haven't been hiding under a rock or in a cave all your life.

This should help.... WMAP- Age of the Universe



The evidence shows we didn't



It would be irresponsible to do so. Even as overly dramatic as the movies were they raise a good point. Additionally our environment has changed significantly over the million upon millions of years. This fact may be do, in part, as to why most dinosaur species died out.




These are sophomoric questions that can be answered by a simple Google search.



Which is why you shall remain closed minded. We know for a fact how the earth was formed and it was all through natural processes over billions of years.

I think you build your foundation upon assumptions.

 

[PolyHedral]

I think you build your foundation upon assumptions.

Please list them.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I think you build your foundation upon assumptions.

If you believe I do then present your evidence to the contrary.

:sleep:

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

Astronomical observation shows the universe to be 13 billion years old, at minimum.


All the matter comes from the Big Bang. Before you ask, it is not a meaningful question to ask "Where did the Big Bang come from?"

Is that an assumption that the universe is 13 billion years old?
If not, why is it not an assumption

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

There is no evidence to support this notion. All modern evidences point to the opposite.



Why would you need to know? And which types of atoms are you referring to?



Surely you can't be serious. I'm sure you haven't been hiding under a rock or in a cave all your life.

This should help.... WMAP- Age of the Universe



The evidence shows we didn't



It would be irresponsible to do so. Even as overly dramatic as the movies were they raise a good point. Additionally our environment has changed significantly over the million upon millions of years. This fact may be do, in part, as to why most dinosaur species died out.




These are sophomoric questions that can be answered by a simple Google search.



Which is why you shall remain closed minded. We know for a fact how the earth was formed and it was all through natural processes over billions of years.

Atoms are made of matter are they not? Tons of things are made out of atoms arranged in different ways. Is there any way to trace how old these atoms are?

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

There is no evidence to support this notion. All modern evidences point to the opposite.



Why would you need to know? And which types of atoms are you referring to?



Surely you can't be serious. I'm sure you haven't been hiding under a rock or in a cave all your life.

This should help.... WMAP- Age of the Universe



The evidence shows we didn't



It would be irresponsible to do so. Even as overly dramatic as the movies were they raise a good point. Additionally our environment has changed significantly over the million upon millions of years. This fact may be do, in part, as to why most dinosaur species died out.




These are sophomoric questions that can be answered by a simple Google search.



Which is why you shall remain closed minded. We know for a fact how the earth was formed and it was all through natural processes over billions of years.

I claim that it is an assumption to say that all matter popped into existence in the big bang

 

[Looncall]

I claim that it is an assumption to say that all matter popped into existence in the big bang

it is an inference from observations. That is not the same as an assumption. You are either showing your ignorance or you do not know what the word "assumption" means.

 

[waitasec]

I think you build your foundation upon assumptions.

:biglaugh:
and what is religious faith?
:foot::foot:

oops.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Atoms are made of matter are they not? Tons of things are made out of atoms arranged in different ways. Is there any way to trace how old these atoms are?

They've always existed extending back to the "Big Bang" (expansion) which would be 13.7 billions years ago.

WMAP- Age of the Universe

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I claim that it is an assumption to say that all matter popped into existence in the big bang

I would agree with you so you can see how ridiculous it sounds that a supernatural god could do it. But then again...I've already listed information to show we know how old the universe is.

How old do you believe the universe to be?

How old do you believe the Earth to be.

 

[gnostic]

Atoms are made of matter are they not?

Actually, it is the other way around.

Matter are made out of atoms.

Atom is the most basic unit of matter.

And each atom is made out of particles (electrons, protons and neutrons). But if you go beyond the realm of matters and into quantum mechanic, then you are dealing subatomic particles.