A Third Woman Alleges She was Sexually Assaulted by Donald Trump

[Skwim]

The gal's story is an old one though.

How recent does a sexual assault have to be to be valid?


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[Revoltingest]

But you are blaming Hillary for the actions of Bill. That is not fair. Hillary has never been accused of rape or sexual assault.
You make it sound like she held women down will Bill had his way.

In her role of quieting his victims, she enabled his continuing to assault new victims.
Example.....
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...nton-rape-accuser-hillary-tried-to-silence-me

 

[Debater Slayer]

So now it's possible that Trump committed sexual assault, on top of every bigoted, hateful, and irrational thing he has said. And his main competitor voted in favor of the Iraq War and is a warmonger. These are the types of people who have the most serious chance at winning the presidency of the U.S.?

The Land of Opportunity indeed, baby.

 

[Revoltingest]

How recent does a sexual assault have to be to be valid?
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I was correcting the claim that she only recently surfaced,
not objecting to her timeliness.

Geeze.....don't people read all the posts here!?

 

[Revoltingest]

So now it's possible that Trump committed sexual assault, on top of every bigoted, hateful, and irrational thing he has said. And his main competitor voted in favor of the Iraq War and is a warmonger. These are the types of people who have the most serious chance at winning the presidency of the U.S.?

The Land of Opportunity indeed, baby.

Many of us find our limited choices difficult.

 

[YmirGF]

I was correcting the claim that she only recently surfaced,
not objecting to her timeliness.

Geeze.....don't people read all the posts here!?

It is still a pretty weird thing for someone to come out with against someone she was "on good terms, friendly terms." with. If this is how she treats her friends, I hate to see how she treats her enemies.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Many of us find our limited choices difficult.

I know. It's unfortunate that so many people are stuck with such crappy choices. The U.S. has so much potential, and a lot of that potential is wasted because of wars, unnecessary domestic problems, and propaganda, among other things.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is still a pretty weird thing for someone to come out with against someone she "good, friendly" relationship with. If this is how she treats her friends, I hate to see how she treats her enemies.

I don't know how truthful her account is.
The same is true of Bill's accusers.
But the charges are disturbing.
As are those against Hillary for enabling sexual assault.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It is still a pretty weird thing for someone to come out with against someone she was "on good terms, friendly terms." with. If this is how she treats her friends, I hate to see how she treats her enemies.

If he did sexually assault her, does it matter whether he was her "friend" or not as far as her speaking out against him goes?

 

[YmirGF]

If he did sexually assault her, does it matter whether he was her "friend" or not as far as her speaking out against him goes?

Unlike so many others, I'd have to know all the nitty gritty details of the story, DS. If the story had no real traction 20 years ago, it has less today.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Unlike so many others, I'd have to know all the nitty gritty details of the story, DS. If the story had no real traction 20 years ago, it has less today.

But I think we'd agree that it would be unreasonable to work from the assumption that Trump is certainly innocent in this case, right? If this is the third time he has been accused of such an act and given his hateful, psychopathic attitude, I I won't be surprised if this is indeed something he did.

 

[fantome profane]

In her role of quieting his victims, she enabled his continuing to assault new victims.
Example.....
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...nton-rape-accuser-hillary-tried-to-silence-me

If you think that this is equivalent to actual rape, then you have to see that Donald has been accused of the same thing in more detail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

she says Mr. Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her, in a “savage sexual attack,” while she pleaded with him to stop. She says Mr. Trump violently struck her in the face. She says that afterward, if she ever revealed what he had done, Mr. Trump threatened that she and her family would be “physically harmed if not killed.”

 

[Skwim]

I was correcting the claim that she only recently surfaced,
not objecting to her timeliness.

Geeze.....don't people read all the posts here!?

How does noting that it was an old story correct any claim that "she only recently surfaced"? These are two very different issues.


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[Revoltingest]

If you think that this is equivalent to actual rape, then you have to see that Donald has been accused of the same thing in more detail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

You're trying to argue that Trump committed worse sexual assaults than did Clinton.
It would take more than a single incident to do this. You'd have to survey & compare
all the accusations. In doing so, do you really think you'd make a case that Hillary's
enabling of such a greater number of crimes is comfortable relative to Trump's committing
worse ones? On top of all this, we don't have perfect information.

 

[Revoltingest]

How does noting that it was an old story correct any claim that "she only recently surfaced"? These are two very different issues.
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Perhaps I should be clearer.
This woman's claim is not recent, despite a couple statements otherwise.
Does this do the job?

 

[fantome profane]

You're trying to argue that Trump committed worse sexual assaults than did Clinton.

Use first names to make this clear.

I am arguing that Donald committed worse sexual assaults than did Hillary.

You are trying to argue that Hillary is responsible for the actions of Bill.

 

[Skwim]

Perhaps I should be clearer.
This woman's claim is not recent, despite a couple statements otherwise.
Does this do the job?

Hey, if you don't believe a sexual assault needs to have a time stamp to be valid, fine.


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[Revoltingest]

Hey, if you don't believe a sexual assault needs to have a time stamp to be valid, fine.
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I think we finally have a common understanding.
A hard thing to achieve in heated discussion, eh?
That she made the charge longer ago makes it more cromulent than had it been recent.
I posted that to Trump's detriment.

 

[YmirGF]

But I think we'd agree that it would be unreasonable to work from the assumption that Trump is certainly innocent in this case, right? If this is the third time he has been accused of such an act and given his hateful, psychopathic attitude, I I won't be surprised if this is indeed something he did.

And yet, if the case is laughed out of court, will you still think that he is guilty?

 

[Debater Slayer]

And yet, if the case is laughed out of court, will you still think that he is guilty?

I wouldn't be able to say he was guilty, but I'd still have suspicions given that this is not the first sexual assault allegation against him and given his personality and attitude.

It'd be an achievement if this case got laughed out of court, though. I mean, there would only be 9,999 items left on his "Disgraceful and Lunatic Track Record" list.