A Universe from Nothing?

[ChristineM]

A sentient Being from nothing is just as absurd if you apply Human Logic. the issue is, we lack the probable understanding to comprehend either. however, if a Sentient being can come from nothing why not a universe? was there ever truly nothing? does anything need a beginning? I make my stance based on my logic and rationale. but it does not make the assumption any less strange. but most assume time as a line. or a ball of twine. I see time as something else. time. Eternity. to me is a Ring. it has no end or start. it loops back around and changes with flow.

so whether its nothing into everything or everything has always been for nothing. it all holds some logic some rationale even if outside our sight. its the fun of trying to figure it out that makes Life worth living.

God: “You’ve been unhappy because you’ve desired things that cannot be.”
Lucifer: “That’s what desire is. The need for what we can’t have. The need for what is readily available is called greed.”

And the Knowledge of some things we cant have. cant understand. but I shall try and learn it anyway. and if I must pay an eye to do so, il make myself an eyepatch.

Was there ever truly nothing?

Its a possibility Proof that the Universe Could have Come from Nothing?

A sentient being didn't arise from nothing, it is the result of 4 billion years of evolution.

 

[`mud]

Only 4 billion ???

 

[`mud]

And an endless circle ????
There is no beginning !

 

[`mud]

And I question an ending.

 

[ChristineM]

Only 4 billion ???

Thats what the facts tell us regarding life on this ball of mud. As to elsewhere in the universe, who knows?

 

[ChristineM]

And an endless circle ????
There is no beginning !

That is the nature of circles

Isn't there? Measurements say the beginning of our universe was about 13.8 billion years ago. Before that its anyone's guess.

 

[ChristineM]

And I question an ending.

There are several scinarios for the universe ending. If none of the others get here first and inflation continues as expected then "heat death" in about 15 trillion years time is the plausible end

 

[godnotgod]

And the Knowledge of some things we cant have. cant understand. but I shall try and learn it anyway. and if I must pay an eye to do so, il make myself an eyepatch.

The answer you seek may lie in the question: "Who is it that is trying to understand?"

Keep your eye. You may need it to navigate along your path.

 

[godnotgod]

The reason science will never find what it is looking for is because it is focused on finding 'something', when the reality is that the true nature of Reality and of The Universe is No-Thing-Ness. The more science drills down into 'material' reality, the more elusive that 'something' has become. Now, some physicists are looking at the 99.99999....% of empty space that the atom is 'made' of for the answers it seeks. What the scientist fails to realize is that in seeking 'something' he is automatically including the unnoticed background of Nothingness. There cannot be this 'something' unless it is understood against Nothingness. But what is thought to be 'something' is also 'No-thing'; it is just an assumptive notion based upon sensory perception, and the tools of sensory perception. What are called 'things' are illusions, which we believe are real, as reported to us via the five senses. But when the facade of this 'material reality' is finally pierced by an awakened consciousness, the seeker then looks beyond it to become one with it's Source, because the observer of the observed is not separate from that which is being observed; he is, in reality, That, pretending not to be That, pretending to be a separate observer of the observed, while the formless and empty 'That' is Pure Abstract Intelligence, playing itself as the myriad Universe. To awaken in this eternal Present Moment is to come to this realization. To seek for the source of The Universe within this vast Nothingness is to be led on and on and on. It is the unconditioned consciousness of the seeker that it the Source itself.