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A "well" church

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
MysticSang'ha said:
The second sentence is what has me curious. Does the focus on God continue outside of the church throughout daily life?

Hoefully this will answer all your questions Jesus said:

Jn 4v21-24: Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


Now to me this is most important, to me He is saying the place is irrelevant God is a Spirit therfore worship must be Spirtual and not confined to physical location. He is looking at the inner man, your thoughts, your intents, your motives, this is a theme i find throughout the bible, our heart. God must be in everything, he doesn't just want a part of your life He wants you, you are His desire, He wants fellowship with you and to be in you and us in Him this is a vital spiritual truth for a christian, we must be made clean for that to happen though because we are defiled by sin.

This was signified in this:
Deut 11v18: Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
(on your hand = God word in what you do) (between your eyes((forehead)) = Gods word in what you think) and teasured in your heart.
Deut 11v19-20: And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

Gods word is to be our meditation day and night and everywhere we go.
Oh how I love Thy Law

And openely declared here:
Deut 6v4-6: Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
*Paul* said:
Worship:
God should be the focus of our worship always, it is a time when we give Him the honour and glory that is rightly His so worship should be God focused not man focused. It should be reverential, respectful, joyful, truthful and come from a heart that is grateful and full of love for Him. Mere outward forms of worship are useless and will be rejected:
Isa 29v13: Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
We should partake of the Lords table often in remembrance of His redemption and to remind us He is coming again, again this should be solemn but not miserable.
It is a time when we can encourage each other to do good, when we can share our burdens together, pray together and learn from one another. It is also a time when we can exercise our gifts that God has given us to build each other up.


I can guess already that W-E-L-L does not signify that these four aspects are individually practiced, but that they are all interdependent of each other. Within worship, there is also opportunity to learn. With evanglism, there resides selfless love and service toward the fellow man. Would it be safe to say that were true?


Evangelise:
This is a very necessary duty and an act of love, we have a command from God to share the good news with others and make disciples of Jesus Christ. This is an important duty but we are not to expect that we shall be thanked for our efforts. The gospel must be preached:
Rom 1v16-17: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.(synonym for gentile)
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 10v13-15: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
It's not an attempt to get people to join your church so you can have their money and boast about church growth, it is a genuine heartfelt act of love for people who you want to be saved from an eternity seperated from God who is the source of all the good things we have in life and our ability to enjoy them. It should always come from a heart of love filled with passion for those who are without Christ and not just to be contentious or win arguements or look good to your brethren. If God lovd the World so much that He gave His only Begotten Son then if we are filled with that same love then we should give ourselves to the same cause.
Of course not everyone is an evangelist but everone has their role to play if not on hte front line then behind the scenes.

Better do a new post incase i run out of words.


Oh, I'd certainly agree that not everyone is destined to be an evangelist (and I'm not just trying to be cute). Much like not everyone is meant to be a chef or an orator or a lumberjack. In your experience, what roles in the entirety of evangelism would fill out the roles "behind the scenes"? How is evangelism supported specifically by the rest of the congregation?



BTW, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.



Peace,
Mystic
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
MysticSang'ha said:
I can guess already that W-E-L-L does not signify that these four aspects are individually practiced, but that they are all interdependent of each other. Within worship, there is also opportunity to learn. With evanglism, there resides selfless love and service toward the fellow man. Would it be safe to say that were true?
They are all interdependent as they are all based on different biblical principals having equal authority. Your evaluation is correct, people often see evangelsism as an attack but we see it as a rescue attempt or rather we should.

Oh, I'd certainly agree that not everyone is destined to be an evangelist (and I'm not just trying to be cute).
Not "just" trying to be cute? Lol. Anyway this is true and can be easily shown through scripture and is an obvious point but it is one that needs to be made because some Christians feel they are hopeless if they can't evangelise effectivly, this is due in part to such a strong emphasis being put on it and by figure heads withtin the church.

Much like not everyone is meant to be a chef or an orator or a lumberjack. In your experience, what roles in the entirety of evangelism would fill out the roles "behind the scenes"? How is evangelism supported specifically by the rest of the congregation?
What i mean in behind the scenes is labouring in prayer, fasting, giving encouragement. Sometimes a travelling evangelist might need a place to stay and some food and encouragement, financial aid for such things as travelling expenses, tracts or if the evanglesist is doing it full time then to help support his basic living expenses if you can. Just a little invite to encourage a neighbour to come to an evangelsitic service to come and hear the gospel. There are so many things and they all count if they are done with a willing heart.
Some plant seeds and others water them but all the glory must go to God after all it is the work of His Spirit to work a change in someones heart, without Him our words are empty and meaningless. He is the one that will convict some one of there truthfulness, He is the one that applies the merits of Jesus atonement to our souls, He is the one who is the guarantee that we have been redeemed. He is the one who teaches us all things but we must submit and listen and trust and obey, He will not force us to obey we must bow the knee in submission to His will. We were brought for a great price and belong to God.
 
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