Abiogenesis

[ChristineM]

There’s no evidence for that.

Actually there is,.

 

[ChristineM]

All the material? All? All the way to infinity? And beyond?

All the material in our universe.

Where does infinity and beyond come from?

 

[Jimmy]

The standard model does not indicate that possibility.

Well if that’s the case then dna forming in a billion years seems unlikely

 

[Jimmy]

Actually there is,.

All scientists have is speculation.

 

[ChristineM]

Well if that’s the case then dna forming in a billion years seems unlikely

 

[ChristineM]

All scientists have is speculation.

Yet you used that speculation to post that silly comment.

 

[Jimmy]

Yet you used that speculation to post that silly comment.

Indeed that’s all I got as well

 

[ChristineM]

@Moon

Maybe you can skip through this, it is quite educational
Chronology of the universe - Wikipedia

And this
Universe - Wikipedia

 

[Jimmy]

@Moon

Maybe you can skip through this, it is quite educational
Chronology of the universe - Wikipedia

Already did

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

All scientists have is speculation.

No, that's all theists have, and they believe those speculations without sufficient supporting evidence, making them faith-based beliefs. Science has a stellar track record for accurately describing reality in a way that allows one to predict much of its behavior. Religious speculation never gives us such ideas - ideas we can use to manage and optimize our conscious experience. Science has made life longer, more functional, easier, safer, more comfortable, and more interesting. What have the religions with all of their unfalsifiable speculations given us of value that isn't done as well or better without religion? That's a very good question that in my opinion deserves an answer.

 

[ChristineM]

Indeed that’s all I got as well

Seems you are lost here

 

[ChristineM]

Already did

Really wow

 

[Jimmy]

No, that's all theists have, and they believe those speculations without sufficient supporting evidence, making them faith-based beliefs. Science has a stellar track record for accurately describing reality in a way that allows one to predict much of its behavior. Religious speculation never gives us such ideas - ideas we can use to manage and optimize our conscious experience. Science has made life longer, more functional, easier, safer, more comfortable, and more interesting. What have the religions with all of their unfalsifiable speculations given us of value that isn't done as well or better without religion? That's a very good question that in my opinion deserves an answer.

all scientists have is speculation regarding the time before the big bang. That's what is inferred by the context of my conversation. Oh fyi spiritual stuff has given me a bit of wisdom.

 

[Subduction Zone]

How can you say it did when absolutely no intention was made in this symmetry breaking to evolve DNA?
DNA didn't have to evolve...did it? At some point you trace DNA's supposed evolution back to a point before which no discernable evolving process inevitably has to produce the beginning's of the components leading to an identifiable DNA molecule with accompanying functions. So the components at some point long after the expansion weren't there and then they were there. A random event placing the beginnings of DNA long, long, after the Big Bang not at the Big Bang or even from the Big Bang.
Make sense?

No. What are you trying to say?

 

[ChristineM]

all scientists have is speculation regarding the time before the big bang. That's what is inferred by the context of my conversation. Oh fyi spiritual stuff has given me a bit of wisdom.

That is not what you said. No inference required.

 

[Jimmy]

That is not what you said. No inference required.

Ok

 

[F1fan]

All the material? All? All the way to infinity? And beyond?

Just do your homework. Your lack of basic knowledge is a liability. You’re trying to fool others with irrelevant questions and guesses.

 

[Jimmy]

Just do your homework. Your lack of basic knowledge is a liability. You’re trying to fool others with irrelevant questions and guesses.

Fooling others? Nah

 

[Jimmy]

Just do your homework. Your lack of basic knowledge is a liability. You’re trying to fool others with irrelevant questions and guesses.

You can't answer me because you know I'm right.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So DNA first came on the scene 1 billion years after the earth formed. To me that seems like to short of a time frame. So the only thing that would make sense is that the evolution of DNA started at the time of the Big Bang theory.

I assume you meant "at the time of the Big Bang" rather than "at the time of the Big Bang theory." No problem.

So, let's see what is, for you, "the only thing that would make sense".

• The Big Bang is estimated to have occurred roughly 13.8 billion years ago.
• The earth is estimated to be roughly 4.5 billion years old.
• You tell us that "DNA first came on the scene 1 billion years after the earth formed," i.e., 3.5 billion years ago.

So you surmise that

1. because DNA came on the scene 10 billion years after the Big Bang,
2. "the only thing that would make sense is that the evolution of DNA started at the time of the Big Bang theory."

That is a wonderfully useless definition of "evolution," since you've told us little more than the cause of everything was the cause of everything, which, for some unknown reason, you view as having come on the scene over "to [sic] short of a time frame."

Brilliant!