Heyo
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Actually, @We Never Know is the angry one here but you have contributed to that anger by refusing to compromise. I haven't seen you state clearly, without caveat, that we don't (yet) know how life emerged on earth.
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Abiogenisis
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Apples vs oranges!
These are not competing mechanisms. Only one is a mechanism. The question is nonsense.
Life was created through the mechanism called abiogenesis.
God is an extraordinary claim. Chemical evolution isn't.
God is an unnecessary claim, of agency and magic, pulled out of someone's hat to assuage their anxiety over an inexplicable and unpredictable world. God is not explanatory.
Chemistry is.
We've already accumulated abundant evidence. Please review it before you express skepticism and beg for more.
And again, what are the competing hypotheses? I know of none.
No. Creationism is accepted on faith. Scientific explanations are accepted on evidence.
Do you disbelieve everything that hasn't been "proven/shown?" If so, you must needs believe in nothing!
Do you believe in the germ theory of disease, the heliocentric theory of astronomy, the gravitational theory of tides? If so, why? Have they been proven/shown, or just well evidenced?
rational experiences
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A human is a human equals human life mind body human and natural law says human.
Law equals an answer says is a or the mutual as living human ...the human is living a human equal human. One..it's species by God type two of.
Human.
A mechanical human by mechanism says a human using human thinking human says I just performed abiogenisis myself. By mechanics machine used.
As no human invented the first cells.
No machine exists.
No human until human.
Ignoring consciousness which legally by testimony said why no man is God. As man with machine changing earths Alchemy killed off living cells in earths holy water heavens.
Water was in space first said a theist.
Yet water was in rock sealed safe when volcano blew said testimony.
Man Did not invent it.. theoried to do it. To reveal it was stated. Before rock life existed.
Not hadn't. It was held in a sealed earth water.
Confessed in theory I will cause its proof by pretending they were creating the first of every thing.
Evaporated water off earths face owned minerals in water.
Man unsealed earth put living water into sealed earth himself. Lied.
Ignoring all evolution of natural laws.
No human present in a beasts life. Legal.
So all things were attacked as a testified proof a Theist man self reviewed. Became legal testimony against the occult. Meaning science.
Occult the EYE...what I see I changed by my choice...
Laws in science.
No man formed his own cellular biology as human man.
He isn't formed before the beast animal life.
He isn't formed before the earth's garden nature.
Man theist... I'm researching how a man's biology formed in the heavens before a man. Lied.
Legal review said...no man is God.
Memory man baby from mother ovary ova born to mothers human body.
Theist said his father was a God man...a memory only as images he said in thoughts of biology man had conceived his life. Only discussed the first ever human bio man was our father.
Proof...man's mind was gone lost to agree. That belief an image in heavens conceived his life as one spirit of body cells man's. A micro bio not yet manifest. As only human bio sex forms biology as and in biology by cells existence. Mass of.
Have to be a bio man by mass bio to be a human man bio.
Same theist to day says the same lies he said before... that only a memory conceived him in a Humans bio mother body.
It was proven a lie in theism.
Man baby remembered his father's memory was first man of human sex. Was no longer alive. Said all in his thoughts imaged thinking. Whole bio body mass a man.
Proof today men who bio die mainly muslim think they have sex with virgin women after. As spirits in heavens.
In life a woman daughter is a virgin in sex before sex. Thoughts about biology a daughter human.
History was a first mother human.
Only bio chemistry and owning human blood engorges a bio penis for human sex.
We own proof man's origin mind is gone by his beliefs now is the same as before.
In the presence of homosexual changed bio mind conscious concepts and child sex and rape.
Father mind gone. Origin man's only DNA owner.
All fake theory's are a concept by bio man's full body owned thoughts now.
Past man's science causes detailed so theists today as men can't lie about what they caused on earth before.
Man's science had already changed waters bio mass and earths sealed bases. Living bio water had entered earths opened mass to reseal it.
Is researching only using man's science data by man thought as caused by man before him. Ignored advice.
Law equals an answer says is a or the mutual as living human ...the human is living a human equal human. One..it's species by God type two of.
Human.
A mechanical human by mechanism says a human using human thinking human says I just performed abiogenisis myself. By mechanics machine used.
As no human invented the first cells.
No machine exists.
No human until human.
Ignoring consciousness which legally by testimony said why no man is God. As man with machine changing earths Alchemy killed off living cells in earths holy water heavens.
Water was in space first said a theist.
Yet water was in rock sealed safe when volcano blew said testimony.
Man Did not invent it.. theoried to do it. To reveal it was stated. Before rock life existed.
Not hadn't. It was held in a sealed earth water.
Confessed in theory I will cause its proof by pretending they were creating the first of every thing.
Evaporated water off earths face owned minerals in water.
Man unsealed earth put living water into sealed earth himself. Lied.
Ignoring all evolution of natural laws.
No human present in a beasts life. Legal.
So all things were attacked as a testified proof a Theist man self reviewed. Became legal testimony against the occult. Meaning science.
Occult the EYE...what I see I changed by my choice...
Laws in science.
No man formed his own cellular biology as human man.
He isn't formed before the beast animal life.
He isn't formed before the earth's garden nature.
Man theist... I'm researching how a man's biology formed in the heavens before a man. Lied.
Legal review said...no man is God.
Memory man baby from mother ovary ova born to mothers human body.
Theist said his father was a God man...a memory only as images he said in thoughts of biology man had conceived his life. Only discussed the first ever human bio man was our father.
Proof...man's mind was gone lost to agree. That belief an image in heavens conceived his life as one spirit of body cells man's. A micro bio not yet manifest. As only human bio sex forms biology as and in biology by cells existence. Mass of.
Have to be a bio man by mass bio to be a human man bio.
Same theist to day says the same lies he said before... that only a memory conceived him in a Humans bio mother body.
It was proven a lie in theism.
Man baby remembered his father's memory was first man of human sex. Was no longer alive. Said all in his thoughts imaged thinking. Whole bio body mass a man.
Proof today men who bio die mainly muslim think they have sex with virgin women after. As spirits in heavens.
In life a woman daughter is a virgin in sex before sex. Thoughts about biology a daughter human.
History was a first mother human.
Only bio chemistry and owning human blood engorges a bio penis for human sex.
We own proof man's origin mind is gone by his beliefs now is the same as before.
In the presence of homosexual changed bio mind conscious concepts and child sex and rape.
Father mind gone. Origin man's only DNA owner.
All fake theory's are a concept by bio man's full body owned thoughts now.
Past man's science causes detailed so theists today as men can't lie about what they caused on earth before.
Man's science had already changed waters bio mass and earths sealed bases. Living bio water had entered earths opened mass to reseal it.
Is researching only using man's science data by man thought as caused by man before him. Ignored advice.
But creation is not a mechanism! It doesn't even claim to be a mechanism! It's an assertion of agency, that's all.
Again, you're comparing apples and oranges.
But is abundantly evidenced, and has no competing hypothesis.
Brian2
Veteran Member
It isn't proven yet.
Brian2
Veteran Member
There is a competing possibility even if it is not called a hypothesis by most people, because theology is not science.
rational experiences
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Earth owned Empty mounds. Very deep ground undulations.
It rained and rained from above.
Water filled up the indentations until it flowed over onto flat land.
Flat land water evaporated so water is in phase moving back and forth not able to spill over.
Only underground pressure openings changes the water based grounded holdings.
Man said sun mass dust burning melt voiding cooling is like rock above as is below by pressures. It holds water to the ground.
So when sun mass crossed the cooling function removes water off the ground.
If too much crosses over above pressures changed so water flowed upwards instead.
What men of science did before. The water shifted ground position as a mass. Why cities went under the sea previously above ground.
Forced new mass to cross above is by science.
Space forced pulled the moon away from an earth hit. Forces science said is holding of the moon's body position only.
If infinity hadn't owned moons position the mass of the moon would have destroyed earth.
Infinity idea of a huge mass to resource in infinity from infinity as coldest type that came to earth in science is the moon.
If you used conscious thought.
Goddidit is not a competing hypothesis.
Nothing is. There are just gradations of evidence.
What is the competing hypothesis? How is an unevidenced, theological claim a possibility?
Trans-dimentional constructor mice is a "competing possibility." It is just as well evidenced as Goddidit.
Why is "theology" being compared to science? One is pure, unevidenced folklore. The other is based on observable, testable, repeatable, evidence.
Brian2
Veteran Member
As I said. It is not science.
Brian2
Veteran Member
It's not a scientific possibility because there is no verified evidence, but it is a possibility. Science cannot say yay or nay to God or the existence of spirit.
Even if science ended up saying that as far as it knows life is chemical in nature, that does not mean it is true, so the theological claim can be true but science does not know because it sees and analyses chemicals and physical processes only.
Brian2
Veteran Member
I don't really want to say that chemicals cannot be mixed together and zapped and produce life, God did say "Let the earth bring forth........life" after all.
If science however has not produced life chemically and observed it and repeated it etc then it is just an assumption that life is chemicals and chemical processes.
Subduction Zone
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Yes, guilty as charged. He was angry before this started. I won't bend over backwards, or even meet someone halfway that cannot respond rationally..
Sedim Haba
Outa here... bye-bye!
Hey, thanks for wasting my time!
You know, there IS a one-on-one-debate forum. Here:
One-on-One Debates
rational experiences
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The God did it theist is the creationist who is the evolutionist.
Same same a theist.
Natural human is legal.
Said. Rock planet in space laws exists position first in all humans life.
No thesis before rock is accepted.
Water is on top of the rock body.
A heavens owns light by two causes.
Heavens earth clear gas alight one body mass.
Heavens sun dusts fuel burning in voiding atmosphere one way only. Light held in infinity.
Isn't any genesis thesis.
A conscious human says. Exact is legal. The answer is first given.
I'm conscious only after apes as dominion. The human. Seen.
No human identity human exists before me. Nor is my conscious ideas expressed.
Themed I am a baby born returned to relive a pre deceased humans adult life my creators...two. Humans.
Is a teaching. Not a thesis.
Legal is a teaching. Not a thesis.
Illegal theists is humans fake history.
Legal was formed to stop you destroying life. As theism was introduced without consensus agreement. All humans.
Legal said there is no human reason to thesis about your non existence as humans legal standing.
On earth.
Theists demand that they are allowed to pretend our non Existence isn't actually legal.
Theism is used as an argument for theism to be practiced.
They say I theory your non life in apes to life now. Isn't a thesis.
It's comparing bio advices.
What a con by a theism was.
Now I can say I believe not all the eternal body was destroyed to be as creation. We were still within eternal ourselves not mass. Yet I know I own no proof.
I therefore can say spiritually I own no proof. Being legal. As I'm telling the truth.
A theist however says I know what the eternal is. By his calculus. Is direct lying.
As you aren't a human god existing before all things to apply calculus to say reaction. And magic.
Same same a theist.
Natural human is legal.
Said. Rock planet in space laws exists position first in all humans life.
No thesis before rock is accepted.
Water is on top of the rock body.
A heavens owns light by two causes.
Heavens earth clear gas alight one body mass.
Heavens sun dusts fuel burning in voiding atmosphere one way only. Light held in infinity.
Isn't any genesis thesis.
A conscious human says. Exact is legal. The answer is first given.
I'm conscious only after apes as dominion. The human. Seen.
No human identity human exists before me. Nor is my conscious ideas expressed.
Themed I am a baby born returned to relive a pre deceased humans adult life my creators...two. Humans.
Is a teaching. Not a thesis.
Legal is a teaching. Not a thesis.
Illegal theists is humans fake history.
Legal was formed to stop you destroying life. As theism was introduced without consensus agreement. All humans.
Legal said there is no human reason to thesis about your non existence as humans legal standing.
On earth.
Theists demand that they are allowed to pretend our non Existence isn't actually legal.
Theism is used as an argument for theism to be practiced.
They say I theory your non life in apes to life now. Isn't a thesis.
It's comparing bio advices.
What a con by a theism was.
Now I can say I believe not all the eternal body was destroyed to be as creation. We were still within eternal ourselves not mass. Yet I know I own no proof.
I therefore can say spiritually I own no proof. Being legal. As I'm telling the truth.
A theist however says I know what the eternal is. By his calculus. Is direct lying.
As you aren't a human god existing before all things to apply calculus to say reaction. And magic.