Abortion for profit advertising - Yes/No?

[Dirty Penguin]

Not at all.

A woman can still have an abortion but why does it need to be blatantly advertised on TV?

We live in a capitalist society....come on now.....will you be protesting McDonald's, Burger King and the myriad of other fast food joints for advertising their fatty slow death menus to the public..?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Nice personal opinion. And thankfully it is one that has zero effect on the legality of the procedure or the fact that it is a medical treatment.

Exactly....:clap

 

[Twilight Hue]

The only "healing" that I can see being done is the healing of the burden of responsibility that lays on a couple as a result of their selfishness

That's not always the case. Circumstances varies as to why people are compelled to have abortions. I'm not a big fan of the practice by a long shot, nor agree to every reason why*, yet in certian situations I can see where exceptions can be made albiet unpleasent as it is to consider. Better than gross neglect or finding newborns in dumpsters as an alternative. Not to mention the state and condition of the mother.

It's a stark reality that desperate people are going to do it no matter what, and if it must, it would be better performed in a clinical setting under the right curcamstances as opposed to commiting infantcide after birth or resulting in the death of the mother if something goes awry.

*Like abortion out of sheer convenience. Birth control without first concidering alternitives such as compensated adoptions for instance.

 

[nnmartin]

RE: why should abortion clinics be advertised on TV?

So women can know where to find the medical services they're looking for

So it's not singled out as if it were illegal when it is perfectly legal.

How about being discreet though?

anyone needing an abortion can easily find out through other channels.

Remember , this is a private-for-profit operation we are talking about here in a country that has free healthcare (including abortions).

This company wants revenue - so the TV is one sure good way of getting it.

Discretion is the key here.

 

[nnmartin]

I agree, but it's hard to legislate "Taste" or "tact"

Impossible to do in fact.

And the inevitable will surely follow - the corruptive power of money to relegate taste and tact issues to the bottom shelf.

Maybe they'll even bring in a special two for one deal.:sarcastic

 

[nnmartin]

We live in a capitalist society....come on now.....will you be protesting McDonald's, Burger King and the myriad of other fast food joints for advertising their fatty slow death menus to the public..?

It's hardly the same thing.

That is a very poor analogy.

 

[Drolefille]

RE: why should abortion clinics be advertised on TV?



How about being discreet though?

anyone needing an abortion can easily find out through other channels.

Remember , this is a private-for-profit operation we are talking about here in a country that has free healthcare (including abortions).

This company wants revenue - so the TV is one sure good way of getting it.

Discretion is the key here.

Like tact, you cannot require discretion.
Besides you say discretion, I say it's an attempt to shame a woman.

Singling abortion out for special consideration is hardly discreet. Again, advertising already exists with this being only a minor change.

 

[Drolefille]

Impossible to do in fact.

And the inevitable will surely follow - the corruptive power of money to relegate taste and tact issues to the bottom shelf.

Maybe they'll even bring in a special two for one deal.:sarcastic

So what if they do? I thinky you're wrong, but so what?

It would behoove you. To see how current marketing is done in the UK first.

It's hardly the same thing.

That is a very poor analogy.

You? Re the one trying to make abortion "special". They're medical providers, just like a private doctor's office of any sort. It's like wanting to ban MCD'S from advertising because eating beef is against your beliefs.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You? Re the one trying to make abortion "special". They're medical providers, just like a private doctor's office of any sort. It's like wanting to ban MCD'S from advertising because eating beef is against your beliefs.

I got to thinking, though...

Usually, medical specialists get their business through referrals from other medical providers... family doctors and the like. If these abortion clinics aren't getting referrals, then this might point to some other problem in the system. Maybe women are reluctant to ask their family doctor for an abortion referral, or maybe doctors and social workers are refusing to give them.

 

[Drolefille]

I got to thinking, though...

Usually, medical specialists get their business through referrals from other medical providers... family doctors and the like. If these abortion clinics aren't getting referrals, then this might point to some other problem in the system. Maybe women are reluctant to ask their family doctor for an abortion referral, or maybe doctors and social workers are refusing to give them.

I don't know how that process differs in the UK, but here i'd say here most women don't get a referral from a PCP but from a women's clinic like a planned parenthood. Or they go directly to the abortion provider.

As it's the UK public offices exist and non-for profits too. There's no indication that these groups are struggling and i suspect that it is more about eveing the playing field and being able to mention on TV that they exist at all (i don't know that they're only trying to advertise that they provide abortion services or their ecistence along with other services.)

i'm all for improving access though. I'd agree that there are some improvements that could be made there, certainly in the US there's a lot of room for improvement.

 

[Kathryn]

I ain't touchin' this argument with a ten foot pole.

When we argue and debate abortion, no one wins. Ever.

That being said, a good dose of tact and tastefulness would be greatly appreciated in any form of advertising that abortion providers may choose to put out in the public for all to see.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That being said, a good dose of tact and tastefulness would be greatly appreciated in any form of advertising that abortion providers may choose to put out in the public for all to see.

I expect that these ads will be tactful and tasteful.

It will be a refreshing change from the anti-abortion protesters I pass occasionally, holding large and decidedly tasteless and tactless images on street corners.

 

[McBell]

I expect that these ads will be tactful and tasteful.

It will be a refreshing change from the anti-abortion protesters I pass occasionally, holding large and decidedly tasteless and tactless images on street corners.

Seems to me that the anti-abortion crowd has set the bar as to what should be and should not be acceptable in advertising.

but now that abortions for profit can be advertised, I bet they change their tune...

One can always count on the double standards of those who think they have some sort of moral high ground.

 

[Skwim]

I've just seen this article on the net that tells of new rules in the UK which will allow private abortion clinics to advertise on the TV and radio for the first time.

Although my views on abortion aren't especially strong either way I still think it is wrong that a private for profit company should be allowed to advertise, and hence make money, in this way.

Esentially, making money out of baby killing.

It seems to send out the wrong message.

The comments at the end of the article are interesting.

Is this sort of advertising allowed in the US and what do people think about this in general?

Abortion clinics get TV ad go-ahead - Yahoo!

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[dawny0826]

I've just seen this article on the net that tells of new rules in the UK which will allow private abortion clinics to advertise on the TV and radio for the first time.

Although my views on abortion aren't especially strong either way I still think it is wrong that a private for profit company should be allowed to advertise, and hence make money, in this way.

Esentially, making money out of baby killing.

It seems to send out the wrong message.

The comments at the end of the article are interesting.

Is this sort of advertising allowed in the US and what do people think about this in general?

Abortion clinics get TV ad go-ahead - Yahoo!

If it's a private business, they should have every right to advertise, regardless of opinions on the type of service they provide.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

It's hardly the same thing.

That is a very poor analogy.

I don't see how it is. Aren't we talking about private companies that offer abortion, probably one of the many services they offer for a fee? If they are a private company offering a service for a fee then what problem do you really have with it?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

That being said, a good dose of tact and tastefulness would be greatly appreciated in any form of advertising that abortion providers may choose to put out in the public for all to see.

So I take it "Come on down to the Fetus Dumpster" would be tasteless...

Seriously who expects advertisers to tackle such a serious issue with anything but the utmost tact?

 

[nnmartin]

Like tact, you cannot require discretion.
Besides you say discretion, I say it's an attempt to shame a woman.

Singling abortion out for special consideration is hardly discreet. Again, advertising already exists with this being only a minor change.

yes, but abortion is a sensitive issue that offends a lot of people.

Quite a few things in some areas are legal yet have to operate with discretion in mind.

for example: gambling businesses, pornography, alcohol, prostitution, cigarettes etc...


Being discreet is not the same as trying to shame a woman.

 

[nnmartin]

If it's a private business, they should have every right to advertise, regardless of opinions on the type of service they provide.

How about the recent debate on the Christian school that barred homosexuals.

A private business.

Doubt you would all be in agreement if it advertised with homophobic pictures, expressions and biblical quotes.

double standard here?

 

[dawny0826]

How about the recent debate on the Christian school that barred homosexuals.

A private business.

Doubt you would all be in agreement if it advertised with homophobic pictures, expressions and biblical quotes.

double standard here?

Again, private business. A Christian PRIVATE school has the right to bar homosexual behavior within their schools. But, THINK about it for a moment. Is it realistic that a homosexual would choose PRIVATE, CONSERVATIVE, CHRISTIAN education to begin with, when they have the choice of FREE, PUBLIC education?

I don't have a double standard at all. Private business has the right to advertise.

I don't waste time worrying over billboards or advertising that I disagree with. Who the hell cares?