Abortion is beautiful

[Nous]

I don't consider that belief to be true. It is completely irrational, uncharitable, and the epitome of unjust to have people tortured forever.

What I find heartbreaking and disgusting is that it seems to be what the majority of Christians believe. I believe God will purify everyone. I think the lake of Fire mentioned was symbolic of a place where purification takes place. Gold can be purified through fire and God talks about purifying his people as gold is purified in a furnace.

Zechariah 13:9 ►
This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold.

OK, got it. Glad to hear it. I wasn't familiar with that Zechariah verse.

I don't know what the majority of Christians believe. I know few people who refer to themselves as Christian. There apparently is long tradition of universalism associated with Christianity, according to Unitarian Universalists. And certainly there are plenty of other religions and religious philosophies that do not traffic in the idea of eternal torment in a lake of fire.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Ted Bundy was born out of wedlock.

Bundy was a psychopath. He would've ended up sick in the head regardless of upbringing.

 

[InChrist]

My post was very sincere. I want to be one in mind, heart, and will with God. I showed you why I think God sometimes uses abortion Doctors as instruments of his mercy.

God killed a lot of babies in the Scriptures.

Now please answer me, can abortion save the soul of a fetus?

Shall we sin that grace may abound? (Romans 6:1)

The Bible states very clearly that taking another person's life is murder and murder is sin. Only God as the Creator has the right to determine the end of one's life. If it is okay to abort a baby in the womb with the supposition that it will save its soul, then how about killing one, two, three, or four years old children before they deliberately sin with understanding so they can be saved. I don't think so.

 

[Nietzsche]

Ted Bundy was born out of wedlock.

So was I. What's your point?

 

[InChrist]

I would rather be aborted than be an unwanted pregnancy. I don't think the average girl that gets an abortion wants an abortion, but she is not equipped to Mother a child (Not to mention the male has often left her, and it can harm a child to not have a Father figure. Ted Bundy was born out of wedlock. His Mother lied to him and said his grandparents were his mom and Dad to hide his illegitimacy. Imagine the heartache it would have saved so many people if His Mother just got an abortion?)

But I respect your views. They have merit and it is rare to see a pro-life Atheist. I find your views to be noble, I just disagree. I've seen too much suffering and too many people that would be better off aborted.

Many people have come from broken, dysfunctional backgrounds and have endured tremendous heartache and suffering, Yet, many have also overcome these situations and gone on to be productive individuals blessing the lives of many others which would have been lost were they aborted. Ben Carson is one example. His childhood and home life was difficult, yet he went on to become a pediatric neurosurgeon who has helped too many children to count, developing new methods to treat brain-stem tumors, and reviving techniques for controlling seizures. What if he had been aborted?

 

[Spiderman]

I just more deeply realized I don't have to focus on the negativity and pain in our world. I'm gonna give that a try and not listen to the despair

I wish you all peace, enlightenment, and euphoria

 

[Spiderman]

What's your point?

My point was He should have been aborted...but I'm trying to shift what I focus on.

There is a lot of ugliness and pain in our world. I just make the mistake of focusing/dwelling on it

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

When do you think a fetus becomes a human being?

I don't care. The term is too subjective to be useful in this instance.

 

[columbus]

So was I. What's your point?

So was I. I don't see any point either.
Tom

 

[Spiderman]

So was I. I don't see any point either.
Tom

I should have been aborted. A lot of people would be better off aborted was what I was getting at.

I don't think that mothers who want abortions should be having kids. I also wouldn't want to be an unwanted pregnancy.

But I was quite negative when the "abortion is beautiful" comment came out and when I made this thread I was thinking of all the people that would be better off not existing.

I'm trying not to listen to those voices. In fact, a few hours ago I had a change of heart and decided to listen to a different voice.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

I should have been aborted. A lot of people would be better off aborted was what I was getting at.

I don't think that mothers who want abortions should be having kids. I also wouldn't want to be an unwanted pregnancy.

But I was quite negative when the "abortion is beautiful" comment came out and when I made this thread I was thinking of all the people that would be better off not existing.

I'm trying not to listen to those voices. In fact, a few hours ago I had a change of heart and decided to listen to a different voice.

I think mothers who don't want their children should give them up for adoption. Yes that is not the optimal way to grow up, but most would agree it is better than nonexistence.

There are people the world would have been better without, and there are people who if they where aborted, would have been unable to help the world move forward.

.....Are you meaning voices metaphorically or literally? I am genuinely concerned.

 

[Spiderman]

I'm referring to the visions I have and the noise and messages in my head and heart. Not voices in the ears.

But I can listen to the voice of hope and focus on the beauty even in the midst of ugliness. I've been listening to the voice of despair. Don't listen to that. Refuse to give in to the voice that calls you to throw in the towel and give up. If you don't have that toxic voice sucking the life out of you, I envy you!

 

[InChrist]

I just more deeply realized I don't have to focus on the negativity and pain in our world. I'm gonna give that a try and not listen to the despair

I wish you all peace, enlightenment, and euphoria

I don't think there is anything wrong with acknowledging the pain and suffering in this life and even being grieved about it. I think it is unrealistic to pretend there is no suffering and everything is just great, when it's not. I have found that pain causes me to turn to more deeply God for answers and strengthens my confidence in Him when I trust Him with the issues of life and death, as God the Creator, and not myself since I am not in the position of God.

 

[Spiderman]

I don't think there is anything wrong with acknowledging the pain and suffering in this life and even being grieved about it. I think it is unrealistic to pretend there is no suffering and everything is just great, when it's not. I have found that pain causes me to turn to more deeply God for answers and strengthens my confidence in Him when I trust Him with the issues of life and death, as God the Creator, and not myself since I am not in the position of God.

Pain causes me to pray but it also causes me to despair and blaspheme. It's tough to know how much good it does.

It's time for me to reject and renounce all that stuff and not even focus on it.

 

[InChrist]

Pain causes me to pray but it also causes me to despair and blaspheme. It's tough to know how much good it does.

It's time for me to reject and renounce all that stuff and not even focus on it.

Despair is not from God. I believe it is an attack from the enemy of God and humanity. Do you feel like there is a battle going on inside of you? I will be praying for peace and freedom for you.

 

[Spiderman]

Despair is not from God. I believe it is an attack from the enemy of God and humanity. Do you feel like there is a battle going on inside of you? I will be praying for peace and freedom for you.

There is a huge battle inside of me. I don't think I'll kill myself but if God would take my life today I'd be all for it. Thank you for your prayers

 

[InChrist]

There is a huge battle inside of me. I don't think I'll kill myself but if God would take my life today I'd be all for it. Thank you for your prayers

I'm glad you will not kill yourself, Please don't listen to the voice that may tell you to. Your life is precious and there is only one YOU. I can understand your desire to be free of the despair and battle. Maybe God will take your life if it is your time, but maybe He desires to give you a new life of victory in Christ.

 

[Spiderman]

Wow! Today, April 19, is the feast of Moloch, Canaanite God associated with infant sacrifice. Maybe He inspired me to start this thread

 

[Spiderman]

So was I. What's your point?

It was in the context of the rest of what I was saying about unwanted pregnancies, not having a Father, that his mother lied to him and said His grandparents were his real parents, how that shaped his misogyny, and in the context of how much heartache it would have saved everyone if abortion had been legal at that time and His Mother just aborted him.

It was in the context of what I was saying that abortion is good for some people and good for society. But I had a change of heart a few hours ago. An epiphany even. So, I apologize.

 

[meghanwaterlillies]

Wow! Today, April 19, is the feast of Moloch, Canaanite God associated with infant sacrifice. Maybe He inspired me to start this thread

mean *** men mostly like I said.. sometimes girls too.
you don't understand what it is really in some cases its based of persisting selfishness one or the other, or there is supply and demand, and multiculturalism with freedom has degrading affects..