The Mayo Clinic is a business. Yes. It has a marketing page. Yes. That does not mean the facts it dissiminates are questionable. That's conspiracy theorism. The same facts can be found on multiple websites.
Here's where you ball up your credibility and toss it right out the window. You keep saying "don't have an abortion, there can be complications". But you aren't saying "don't have babies, there can be complications". Or "don't have an appendectomy, there can be complications". Or "don't have a colonoscopy, there can be complications". All medical procedures carry a risk of complication. But it doesn't seem to bother you as much in any other procedure but abortion. You seem to be relying on instillation of fear to boost your opinion of abortion. All I'm doing, is showing that the data don't support your tactic. I'm not attacking your opinion at all. Just your tactic. And all you can say about that, is "you should really fear what I am just positive is really going on, don't trust facts." That's extremely dishonest. But then I'm not sure that honesty is important to you, given the exceedingly negative, bordering on abhorrent, opinion you have of people who don't agree with you on this issue. So you rock on with that. I'm sure I'm not the first person who's told you something similar.
Marisa, you've presented no facts. You've relied on what somebody else says are the facts, and I've suggested there's reason to question their motives.
I spent a number of years in pharma research, and the one thing I will never forget is the big disconnect between the research, and the executive leadership. The bench scientists either want to help people, or they just want a job. Executive management proved it was willing to subordinate the "help people" motive, to their legal responsibility to make money.
As to your claim that I find people "abhorrent" because they disagree with me: I've made it clear that I consider mankind to be broken. We are self - serving to a fault, and tend to be disdainful of others when they don't agree with us. These behaviors are exacerbated when polarized issues are discussed. I find certain actions are abhorrent, and I have a hard time understanding how people justify doing something that I would think might at least give them pause. On the contrary, they talk about rights, women's health, "my body" and other euphemisms that only serve to obscure the fact that they are killing a baby.
In reality, I don't keep saying there can be complications (if I recall, I cited complications in rebuttal to somebody else's post). I keep saying that it's a selfish decision. I had an appendectomy, and there was no moral or ethical consideration. It astounds me that no proponent of abortion seems willing to address the obvious moral and ethical issues surrounding abortion. The viability argument is absurd. By the same logic, we could kill any quadroplegic, paralytic, or otherwise incapacitated person as soon as the food was depleted from their fridge. Steven Hawking would have been an easy target, as he couldn't "survive unassisted."
Finally, my honesty and my view of people are not related. That is, my view that abortion, for most circumstances under which it is performed, is a terrible recourse does not reflect on my honesty. I accept that it does reflect on my character. I have attempted to be as compassionate, understanding, and respectful as possible, while stating that the action is ugly. So far, every reason given for abortion has been selfish, which supports my original post.
Here's my summary: people have despised me for my posts, I have disdained them for their selfishness, we have insulted each other, and generally acted in pride and arrogance on both sides of a contentious issue. I again assert that mankind is broken, in these and many other ways.
Man is so broken, that God in His mercy provided a solution. Not that we could be magically perfect on earth, but that the sacrifice of Christ would reconcile us to our creator, so long as we accept Christ's sacrifice for what it was.
I cringe every time I retort in pride or spite. I sometimes fool myself into thinking that, so long as I am doing it "for the children," that it's all good. But we are judged by what's in our hearts, not by our intentions. And because I regularly fail that criterion, I am grateful that Jesus paid for my failure with his life.
In the end, I would rather be on God's side of any issue. Sometimes the science supports God's side, and sometimes science simply doesn't know. Science spends a significant amount of time discovering it's been wrong, yet somehow usually manages to convey the idea that "NOW we're sure!"
