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About blaming God.

Heyo

Veteran Member
However, if God is an all-powerful being, He would also have the power to give authority and dominion to man and let man set his own course... for blessings or demise. Then man would have the responsibility.
For that it would have to give away part of its power. No responsibility without power. If man has the power over his environment, then he has responsibility for his environment. That means also that god has no power over the environment. Which means it is no longer an all powerful god.
And man could still blame god (if he believes in it) for those things he has no power over, like earthquakes.
Only if you believe that god has no power at all, you'd have no reason to blame it for anything.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
For that it would have to give away part of its power. No responsibility without power. If man has the power over his environment, then he has responsibility for his environment. That means also that god has no power over the environment. Which means it is no longer an all powerful god.
And man could still blame god (if he believes in it) for those things he has no power over, like earthquakes.
Only if you believe that god has no power at all, you'd have no reason to blame it for anything.

If a human being male quoted, God first and original, Earth owned natural equilibrium and balances as EVEN.

Then quotes...and I caused the Earth/God O body to change, which includes my own self...by changing EVEN into EVE...with science quotes about irradiating/heating natural cold spatial history, as a womb quote. Then I would be owner of the cause.

Now if I am a male who says spiritually my conscious awareness allows me to confess, and due to confessing then I relieve myself of my guilt...then he did.

He said his own self was Jesus, male human life sacrificed by his adult male human ability to know God. I changed God to access from fusion, sealed Earth, fission. I caused cold out of space natural history to heat up.

I therefore was the Carpenter builder of it...….I claim Carpenter is the plate tectonics of Planet Earth...hence I would own a self male human science/Satanism confession by science quotes of technology being the cause of why Earth lost its equilibrium balances.

Where ancient volcanic activity would have been very deep inside of Earth, where it had been sealed off, from entering old bored out tunnels.

And science broke the seals and hence changed life on Earth forever, and we have lived paying the karmic debt upon self living inheritance ever since.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I wonder about one thing.

Why do some people blame God, Buddha, and so on, when something goes wrong in their life, or they do not understand something in a religious/spiritual setting. then they blame God for not doing the right thing for them??

Sometimes I think god is a justification and excuse to a believers behavior. (I.e. you will burn in hell for being gay. God said it not me/true story). God is the believers scapegoat for that person's prejudice.

When a believer is mean and use god as a justification for his negative views and influence, people blame that believer through god. God is a scapegoat to a hurt person's experience against the believer.

Many who follow god from a healthy perspective and leave they tend to respect their family' s belief rather than curse it.

i.e. I remember a convo here where believer X told believer Y that anyone who rejects god will be punished harshly. No one rejects god without consequence (parphrasing).

Believer Y said "I'm glad I don't believe in 'your' god."

They talked about god's love.

X: only believers are loved by god. Y: all people are loved by god.

If people are born in these households it determines how one feels about the "believer" not god.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
When humans believe in telling spiritual truth, and you know what a Nature balance is, male/female for procreation of the species...and then did nuclear science...which is causing extra radiation mass, not owned by natural gas light, or clear cold gases...and you see the radiation as UFO.

And the gases burn in unnatural increased mass, fall out and burn you....then would you not have told self that changing God caused the reason for homosexuality by burning? And it be the answer and not an accusation against the natural life...by advised that the law of God, natural had been altered...and it is mis read and mis quoted.

The reality is....a document owns a detailed history of researching that has to quote and give a detailed example of what was being studied, to own a conclusive statement at the End. Hence is was never a paper/research that involved separation of informed statements...for a review gave itself a conclusive evidence of fact that quoted....do not give God the stone names/titles for science theories. And never change God by named inference ever again...as the detailed researched conclusion?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I wonder about one thing.

Why do some people blame God, Buddha, and so on, when something goes wrong in their life, or they do not understand something in a religious/spiritual setting. then they blame God for not doing the right thing for them??

I see it this way, as an atheist i have no god to blame (or thank).

However taking any religion that boasts an omni everything creator god then it must he assumed that god is responsible for the creation of all within his/her creation. And being omni must also have been aware of what he was creating.

In any organisation with a head, that head is responsible for the organisation.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
But even if a God has immense compassion toward human beings, would it not still be the human being who would have to change his or her way of thinking, acting, or speaking so to better once own life? or so some people look at God as their own private server?

This is a fair point. The problem though is that often enough bad things happen to people that couldn't have been prevented by them.

So while your rationale is applicable to the consequences of not knowing how to handle your finances, for example, it is not applicable to the dude that just got run over by a car while he was walking on the sidewalk. Do you get what I am saying?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
This is a fair point. The problem though is that often enough bad things happen to people that couldn't have been prevented by them.

So while your rationale is applicable to the consequences of not knowing how to handle your finances, for example, it is not applicable to the dude that just got run over by a car while he was walking on the sidewalk. Do you get what I am saying?
I understand there you want to to yes :) to my understanding the guy who got ran over may have just paid a huge amount of karma.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I wonder about one thing.

Why do some people blame God, Buddha, and so on, when something goes wrong in their life, or they do not understand something in a religious/spiritual setting. then they blame God for not doing the right thing for them??
Some people have a tendency to blame others for one's own problems.
But even more tend to let God off the hook for disasters befalling them.
This latter view makes more sense, since this God person is omnipotent,
& therefore controls everything He puts His mind to. To not put His mind
to disasters is to consciously allow them to happen.
It's all a very foreign perspective to me.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Karma is cause of effect. Do wrong and suffer or do good and be well.
You can do the utmost good and still be a victim, is that karma or a human inferred theme of you deserve it because I say so?

When a book states genetic human bio information and says all humans were created equally and own equal atmospheric conditions shared with Garden Nature, animals and humans.....then builds machines, irradiates and causes fall out is that karma or a bad choice that causes others to suffer for the wrongdoing of a few...who taught the coercive karma themes?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Karma is cause of effect. Do wrong and suffer or do good and be well.

Sure, but it is as supernatural as God.
Karma is not that different from saying: God punished me because I was bad, or God rewarded me because I was good.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
I wonder about one thing.

Why do some people blame God, Buddha, and so on, when something goes wrong in their life, or they do not understand something in a religious/spiritual setting. then they blame God for not doing the right thing for them??

Because the nature of humans is to complain:

1) I tend to blame God when trouble comes and forget to say, "God, WHY did you bless me with money, food and a house! I didn't deserve all this!"

2) This tendency to complain is best shown in active skeptics, whose glass is always half-full. They constantly complain about suffering and pain rather than learning from it, persevering in it, or thanking God for trials.

I will curse God for suffering when atheists praise Him for children and rainbows.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
For that it would have to give away part of its power. No responsibility without power. If man has the power over his environment, then he has responsibility for his environment. That means also that god has no power over the environment. Which means it is no longer an all powerful god.
And man could still blame god (if he believes in it) for those things he has no power over, like earthquakes.
Only if you believe that god has no power at all, you'd have no reason to blame it for anything.

Close... but the proverbial "but no cigar" :)

Yes, man has power over his environment, yes he has the responsibility.

But to say that when God did it He was no longer all powerful--has two flaws. You have stipulated that as an all-powerful God, He can't be powerful enough to give the earth to man which then make Him not all-powerful.

Second, in that (at least in the Christian narrative) God reformats the earth--is He not then still all-powerful?

So... man is still without excuse :)
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do some people blame God, Buddha, and so on, when something goes wrong in their life, or they do not understand something in a religious/spiritual setting. then they blame God for not doing the right thing for them??
That won't work in the schools of Buddhism I personally know, and I don't know if it works for any other schools of Buddhism, but there are several reasons why it might seem right for some people in Christianity.

Many things are usually claimed for the Christian God ─ that [he]'s omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, perfect and benevolent. But as the Epicurean school of philosophy more or less put it centuries BCE, in relation to another deity,

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is God both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?​

'The problem of pain' is another one of the names for that problem. Let me put it this way:

If I, being present and aware, could prevent death or serious injury to an ordinary fellow-human, then I'd try to do so, perhaps even at risk to myself.

So the idea of God looking inertly on while innocent people come to harm is 3D incompatible with benevolence. Where, God, were your omnipotence and omniscience and omnipresence and benevolence when the very worthy, decent and kind human X met an untimely death?

That's not quite the same thing as blaming God for misfortune one might personally suffer, but the parallel is strong.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Blaming God is what we do when blaming everyone else doesn't bring us the satisfaction we'd hoped for.
 
I have been asked a similar question before, and again my answer will be similar.
The child may have carried too much karma into this life from a past life, and by this have to repay the karma, and in your scenario, it is the killer who executes the karmic reaction toward the child, the parents have also karma and will thereby suffer because of losing their child, still, this has nothing to do with God. it has to do with everyone's past actions, words, or though and how much karma they carry in this lifetime.

Is it wrong of the killer to kill? yes, it is. will the killer get more karma? yes a lot, so in the killers next life he/she may experiences similar situation where the killer is the one who get killed to repay the karma from this action in this life.
I don't believe in karma in the way you mean other than we are all paying for Adam's sin. From a Christian view point I don't think many people really understand what the scriptures are saying.
Once Jesus died God is not involved in anything that happens here on Earth util the allotted time and others fail to believe or acknowledge God has an adversary.
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 1 John 5:19 NIV
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Sure, but it is as supernatural as God.
Karma is not that different from saying: God punished me because I was bad, or God rewarded me because I was good.
No it is not. Karma is another word for inherent consequences, whether direct or indirect. It's the principle of of "you reap what you sow". That's natural. Not supernatural.
 
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