About Feminism and LGBT

[Estro Felino]

Are you interested in having sex with a transwoman?

No...absolutely not. I like males, those bellied, hairy ones...

I think that person on that video has a point.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

No...absolutely not.

Then to be blunt, unless a transwoman or her partner is willing to divulge that private and intimate information to complete strangers, it does not matter one bit, and is none of your business.

It is absolutely inappropriate to thus treat transwomen as some specimen to study, being "curious" about how they have sex when you have no interest in having sex with them and it will never affect you.

 

[Estro Felino]

Then to be blunt, unless a transwoman or her partner is willing to divulge that private and intimate information to complete strangers, it does not matter one bit, and is none of your business.

It is absolutely inappropriate to thus treat transwomen as some specimen to study, being "curious" about how they have sex when you have no interest in having sex with them and it will never affect you.

Then why that woman went to complain with a newscaster, on national TV?
Nobody here has addressed her point, yet.
If she doesn't have a point, explain me why.

Debate is for addressing the topic, and not to focus on the Opening Poster only.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Then why that woman went to complain with a newscaster, on national TV?

First, they're not a newscaster; Fox cannot legally identify their content as news. They are entertainment, and she's on Fox because it's sensationalism.

Nobody here has addressed her point, yet.

I'm going to be blunt again in addressing her "point": Who [REDACTED] cares?

Tucker Carlson is a childish man baby that couldn't pour water from a bucket if the instructions were on the bottom, and that woman, Julia Beck, is frankly transphobic trash. She doesn't have a point because she's relying on pseudoscience and just flatly wrong information, relying on the same sort of scare tactics that Conservatives have been harping about for decades and yet have never happened in the pandemic rates they shriek about (if at all) from their flimsy soapboxes.

 

[Estro Felino]

First, they're not a newscaster; Fox cannot legally identify their content as news. They are entertainment, and she's on Fox because it's sensationalism.


I'm going to be blunt again in addressing her "point": Who [REDACTED] cares?

Tucker Carlson is a childish man baby that couldn't pour water from a bucket if the instructions were on the bottom, and that woman, Julia Beck, is frankly transphobic trash. She doesn't have a point because she's relying on pseudoscience and just flatly wrong information, relying on the same sort of scare tactics that Conservatives have been harping about for decades and yet have never happened in the pandemic rates they shriek about (if at all) from their flimsy soapboxes.

I see...so if I say that I won't have sex with a trans man because he has female genitalia, am I a transphobe?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I see...so if I say that I won't have sex with a trans man because he has female genitalia, am I a transphobe?

No, because that's your preference. People are allowed to have their own preferences. What would be transphobic is saying that he's not a real man because of the content of his pants.

 

[Estro Felino]

No, because that's your preference. People are allowed to have their own preferences. What would be transphobic is saying that he's not a real man because of the content of his pants.

I have never said that. Because I am a jurist and that trans man is a man, by law.
I respect what the law says, whether a person is M or F.

But that's what Julia Beck basically says too: she says that trans women are women, because they identify as women. But she wants to shout out loud and be free to say her preference is not trans women. Just that.
But that's how the term TERF was born: trans women feeling excluded by lesbians' dating pool.

 

[Estro Felino]

@The Kilted Heathen

And by the way, here the Government is interested in what two people do under their bed sheets.
Because a trans woman and a ciswoman cannot get married.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

But that's what Julia Beck basically says too: she says that trans women are women, because they identify as women. But she wants to shout out loud and be free to say her preference is not trans women. Just that.

No, not just that. She is also leaning very heavily on the scare tactic that predatory men will just call themselves a transwoman to prey on women. She is using this to invalidate transwomen, and attempting to partition them off away from "real" women. Saying that they "ignore biological fact". She even tries to make an argument against their inclusion in LGBT. She says this all right in the video with Tucker-with-an-F Carlson glibly saying that he doesn't really care about the topic but it's such an important topic. Neither of them care, both of them don't view transwomen as women, and it's disgusting to see such hate handled so casually.

Beck's evidence of all this is little more than one singular instance in the UK, and a "Trust me babe" for here in the US. It's happening in "many states" but she can't point to it. Women have been "screaming about this for decades" but they've been silenced. It's nonsense, it's transphobic, and she is a TERF plain and simple. She's not speaking facts, she's not speaking to her sexual preference, she is spreading hate and baseless fear because of her ignorance.

And by the way, here the Government is interested in what two people do under their bed sheets.

And that is not right.

 

[Estro Felino]

No, not just that. She is also leaning very heavily on the scare tactic that predatory men will just call themselves a transwoman to prey on women. She is using this to invalidate transwomen, and attempting to partition them off away from "real" women. Saying that they "ignore biological fact". She even tries to make an argument against their inclusion in LGBT. She says this all right in the video with Tucker-with-an-F Carlson glibly saying that he doesn't really care about the topic but it's such an important topic. Neither of them care, both of them don't view transwomen as women, and it's disgusting to see such hate handled so casually.

Beck's evidence of all this is little more than one singular instance in the UK, and a "Trust me babe" for here in the US. It's happening in "many states" but she can't point to it. Women have been "screaming about this for decades" but they've been silenced. It's nonsense, it's transphobic, and she is a TERF plain and simple. She's not speaking facts, she's not speaking to her sexual preference, she is spreading hate and baseless fear because of her ignorance.


And that is not right.

Ok. thank you so much, I really value your opinion.
That's what I wanted to know. Why her point is wrong.
And I guess you are somehow right, since generalizations are always bad, but in the meantime it's right that together, people find solutions, that can eliminate fear and distrust. Together.