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About the U.S. Government's Cutting NASA's Funding

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I don't think it is really possible to justify a lot of space research beyond sattelite launchings before the existence of poverty and armed conflict is solved.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
NASA is irrelevant to the Republicans because they don't accept basic science, such as the ToE, climate change, etc. Plus, if Obama is for it, they're against it.
Back when I worked in aerospace, the engineers were overwhelmingly Republican.
So I think they understood the science better than most.
It's something a mere anthropologist might never see
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't think it is really possible to justify a lot of space research beyond sattelite launchings before the existence of poverty and armed conflict is solved.
It's more important than eliminating poverty, which might not even be solvable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Is this a joke? I am not even going to bother with a thought out, fact based response because it clearly won't matter.
He just wanted to see that big vein on your forehead pop out in anger.
I must admit that I enjoy watching it throb too.
You've a real talent there.
 

Papoon

Active Member
I don't think it is really possible to justify a lot of space research beyond sattelite launchings before the existence of poverty and armed conflict is solved.

I think we should look after our own planet first, and not wast money on space projects.

I understand your sentiments here. However there is short term and long term.
The resources which can be exploited - such as 24/7 solar collectors, lunar helium-3, and the huge mineral resource which is the asteroid belt- could have huge positive impact on the wealth and wellbeing of an inceasingly large global population. It may well be something we cannot afford NOT to do.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I used to feel the same way, when NASA actually achieved awesome goals and inspired people regardless of political agendas, now it's largely just another environmental agency, helping the government with their sales pitch for ever more taxes, regulations, control of every aspect of our lives
You mean NSA, not NASA, right?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I understand your sentiments here. However there is short term and long term.
The resources which can be exploited - such as 24/7 solar collectors, lunar helium-3, and the huge mineral resource which is the asteroid belt- could have huge positive impact on the wealth and wellbeing of an inceasingly large global population. It may well be something we cannot afford NOT to do.
Maybe, maybe not ?.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I understand your sentiments here. However there is short term and long term.
The resources which can be exploited - such as 24/7 solar collectors, lunar helium-3, and the huge mineral resource which is the asteroid belt- could have huge positive impact on the wealth and wellbeing of an inceasingly large global population. It may well be something we cannot afford NOT to do.
May it? How would mining the asteroids even be viable from an economical perspective?

And how would it be more than a momentary reprieve for the demands caused by that large population even if it were viable?
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
He just wanted to see that big vein on your forehead pop out in anger.
I must admit that I enjoy watching it throb too.
You've a real talent there.
It is like me questioning your pride and joy (which I would never do)...
pride-joy.jpg
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I don't think it is really possible to justify a lot of space research beyond sattelite launchings before the existence of poverty and armed conflict is solved.
No reason why we can't do both.
 

Papoon

Active Member
May it? How would mining the asteroids even be viable from an economical perspective?

And how would it be more than a momentary reprieve for the demands caused by that large population even if it were viable?

Congress wanted the answer to that question in the early 1960s.

So a think tank was established. The head honcho appointed to manage the thinktank was Gerard K O'Neill.
Members of the think tank were post grad engineering students, who took up the option of being part of the think tank as an alternative to the usual PHD.
This is all documented in the book 'The High Frontier' by O'Neill, which was written as a pop nonfiction after Congress under the Reagan government called in the think tank's analysis.
It is recommended reading.
The asteroid belt equals 38000 earths in terms of mining. That is why the international rush is on to get to Mars and build bases. The asteroid belt lies between Mars and Jupiter.
I can tell you more if you are interested.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think that the trend that NASA has bought into over the last couple of decades makes sense, namely far fewer manned missions and more unmanned exploratory missions with satellites and space probes. The NASA budget is quite small when looking at the total budget, and I don't think it's wise to eliminate research.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I think that the trend that NASA has bought into over the last couple of decades makes sense, namely far fewer manned missions and more unmanned exploratory missions with satellites and space probes. The NASA budget is quite small when looking at the total budget, and I don't think it's wise to eliminate research.
Correct, especially since manned missions from here on out are much more complicated and require a significant amount of R&D. Landing on Mars is a completely different ball game than landing on the moon. The good news is there are many players in the game trying to figure it out outside of the agency in addition to NASA's own efforts.
 
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