Abrahamic faiths and bigotry

[ChristineES]

It is not a blanket statement. He said if it is MORE PRONE. A blanket statement would be: dudes and dudettes of abrahamic religions are more bigot than the other religious dudes and dudettes.

What he said is a different kind of approach.

Is like if I said: all poor people are thiefs (<-blanket statement) or poverty and lack of job oportunity makes people more prone to stealing (<-not so)

That is not what he said. He said that faiths of Abraham are bigoted by structure. I totally disagreed with that.

 

[Me Myself]

That is not what he said. He said that faiths of Abraham are bigoted by structure. I totally disagreed with that.

He literaly did say that:

The point of this thread is: are Abrahamic faiths more prone to bigotry because of their fundamental beliefs?

Yes, he is implying that abrahamic faiths may have a biggest tendency or propencity to put people on the fundamentailst side, and it is what this threadi s about.

Still, his wording is clearly not one of a blanket statement. Now if you disagree with it, okay, but I do feel I must point that part out.

About your actual comment, you extracted the best parts of christianism when you made it, but this thread is about the totality of abrahamic faiths, and naturaly it wont only deal with the best part.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

That is not what he said. He said that faiths of Abraham are bigoted by structure. I totally disagreed with that.

Yup. But "more prone to" is a blanket statement also. The OP is a classic example of bigotry and hypocrisy.

 

[Me Myself]

By all means then, refute:

The problem I find is that the religion see anyone worshipping other gods as being punishable by death by stoning. That's around he first.

Then you get by the part in which god asks genocide to cultures that are worshiping other gods. Then stone punishing homosexuals, and so on and so forth.

I mean the common bigotry of other religions tends to be towards women who kinda have had the short end of the straw almost universaly, but to what I have seen abrahamic tend to have the worst of it. I mean, let's start by the begining, it begins with an act of absolutely rampant fanatism: sacrifice me your son so I know you are obedient. Sure, he didn't actually do it at the end, but God saw as a moraly just person one who is willing to do this if he asks it to him.

This is rewarding fanatism since the very founder of the umbrella term for all this religions. Inocent killing fanatism that is.

It's a problem. A serious one.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

By all means then, refute:

Is that indicative of all Abrahamic religions, including mine?

 

[Me Myself]

Is that indicative of all Abrahamic religions, including mine?

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That is an indicative of what abrahamic branch is prone to create. I am not saying it is all it creates. I am sure there are many individuals without the problem, and maybe some subbranches of abrahamic religion are even less prone to the fundamental fanatism of it's founder.

As I said, I am talking about a general tendency.

I know my interpretation of Jesus doesn't say chop off the guy's ear, so I coldn't be meaning all of them.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

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As I said, I am talking about a general tendency.

So you admit you are painting with a broad brush. Isn't that bigotry?

 

[ChristineES]

I haven't noticed that Christians, Jews, etc. are any more prone to bigotry than other religions. I have always believed that racism and other forms of bigotry were against the teachings of my faith, I get very angry when I see people of my faith being racist or bigoted because I feel they are misrepresenting the faith. I am Christian by faith and Jewish by ethnicity (My mother's mother was Jewish).

 

[Me Myself]

So you admit you are painting with a broad brush. Isn't that bigotry?

lol, not necesarily, for example you are doing that now.


It is not the same to say:

If you go to Ecuador, you'll have bigger chances to get robbed that if you go to europe, than to say all ecuadorians are thiefs and you will surely get robbed there.


I need to know if you understand this difference. If you think they are both bigotry, then we may be stuck here for a while.

 

[ChristineES]

So you admit you are painting with a broad brush. Isn't that bigotry?

In my opinion, it is stereotyping or generalizing, which has always been considered bigotry. We all do that to a certain degree (for example, believing all Frenchmen are good cooks, etc.)

 

[CynthiaCypher]

lol, not necesarily, for example you are doing that now.

It is not the same to say:

If you go to Ecuador, you'll have bigger chances to get robbed that if you go to europe thand to say all ecuadorians are thiefs and you will surely get robbed there.

I need to know if you understand this difference. If you think they are both bigotry, then we may be stuck here for a while.

You're not even making sense now. Cognitive dissonance at work?

 

[Me Myself]

You're not even making sense now. Cognitive dissonance at work?

Maybe. when you are sure and you fix yourself tell me, and if you sitll don't understand the question then you may tell me which parts you didn't get and we may see how to have a better comunication.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Maybe. when you are sure and you fix yourself tell me, and if you sitll don't understand the question then you may tell me which parts you didn't get and we may see how to have a better comunication.

Don't get me confused, but I think you are confused.

 

[Me Myself]

Don't get me confused, but I think you are confused.

Re/check the post you think that "made no sense". If you still don't understand it, point to me where don't you so I can look for a way to explain it more clearly.

Communication is two ways. I am sorry for the typos in my post and I will edit them out now, but I think besides them, you should be able to understand the message.

If not, as I said, point me where is the problem so I can rewrite.

 

[Chisti]

Yes. And you are one of them. You have been spending your making and participating in threads that disparage the Abrahamic faith (which includes a wide range of belief systems including Bahai and Gnosticism), if that doesn't connote bigotry on you part I don't know what will.

And not only that one person makes a single thread criticizing the Buddha and you join in on the hand wringing and general gnashing of the teeth, so that just doesn't make you bigoted but also hypocritical.

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Army McCarthy Hearings "Have you no decency" - YouTube


And people aren't bigoted because they belong to an Abrahamic religion, they bigoted because bigotry is hardwired into people.

Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gnashing of teeth is cool ... makes me feel like a heavy metal star.:cover:

 

[Chisti]

No. They are simply more masculine, better military able, better strategists, better political planners, better geographers, and much more efficient in taking over the world and boldly go to places which Dharmic religions never dared to conceive.

In short. Their history is much more juicy and interesting. Less miserable, and neurotic figures who run away from politics and social strife to start male dominated monastic orders and wallow in their poverty.

Yup - genocide, war, imperialism - very juicy and masculine indeed.

 

[Bob Dixon]

Yup - genocide, war, imperialism - very juicy and masculine indeed.

Totally makes for way more entertaining movies.

 

[Chisti]

Totally makes for way more entertaining movies.

True, Ben Hur comes to mind, my all-time favorite.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I want to know are the Dharmic religions more prone to egotism? Seems to me they are more self-absorbed than the Abrahamic religions

 

[Me Myself]

Re/check the post you think that "made no sense". If you still don't understand it, point to me where don't you so I can look for a way to explain it more clearly.

Communication is two ways. I am sorry for the typos in my post and I will edit them out now, but I think besides them, you should be able to understand the message.

If not, as I said, point me where is the problem so I can rewrite.

Just let me know. I am sure you CAN understand it if you make an effort o.o