Abrahamic religions can be hazardous to you health

[richardlowellt]

There have been many instances were religion has put up barriers to obstruct medical advancements, In India, an attempt to stop the spread of polio was met with such a barrier. The people of Bengal spread the word to the farthest conners of their society, bring your children, no questions asked, and let them swallow two drops of fluid. In some outlying places Muslim die-hards were spreading the rumor that the droplets were a ploy by sinister Western medicine, you would be stricken by impotence and diarrhea.

In 2005 in Northern Nigeria a country that was polio free, a group of Islamic religious figures issued a ruling or fatwa that declared the polio vaccine to be a conspiracy by the United States and the United Nations against the Muslim faith. The drops were designed, said these mullahs, to sterilize the true believers. Their intentions and effect was genocide. Nobody was to swallow them or administer them to infants. Within months, polio was back and not just in Nigeria. Nigerians travelers and pilgrims has already taken it as far as Mecca and spread it back to several other polio-free countries.

Advice given by Cardinal Alfonso Lopez de Trujillo, the vatican's president of the Pontifical Council for the family, carefully warning his audience that all condoms are secretly made with many microscopic holes through which the AIDS virus can pass.

Timothy Dwight, a president of Yale University and to this day one of America's most respected "divines" was opposed to the smallpox vaccination because he regarded it as an interference with God's design.

 

[zenzero]

Friend richardlowellt,

Abrahamic religions can be hazardous to you health

Would not see it that way. Basically it is not religious but personal awareness that is required to live a healthy life.

Am still an occasional smoker inspite of all the awareness because of the HABIT formed over 40 years.
Would rather put it as *conciousness* which brings about well being of the individual and that in turn of the people around.

Love & rgds

 

[Riverwolf]

Some religious groups have done harmful things.

So?

 

[richardlowellt]

Friend richardlowellt,



Would not see it that way. Basically it is not religious but personal awareness that is required to live a healthy life.

Am still an occasional smoker inspite of all the awareness because of the HABIT formed over 40 years.
Would rather put it as *conciousness* which brings about well being of the individual and that in turn of the people around.

It's obvious to me that you never read my post, or if you did you didn't get the point. Stop smoking, it will eventually kill you. I smoked for years and quit cold turkey, if i can do it anyone can.

 

[richardlowellt]

Some religious groups have done harmful things.

So?

Goes to my point that the abrahamic religions poison everything, and should be eradicated like any other disease.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Timothy Dwight, a president of Yale University and to this day one of America's most respected "divines" was opposed to the smallpox vaccination because he regarded it as an interference with God's design.

What pathetic slop. How many Jews and Christians have been involved in the funding, development, and distribution of vaccines?

 

[zenzero]

Friend richardlowellt,

Yes, did read your whole post and understood it fully.
You are trying to connect religion which are used by people to create barriers to their own heath. Am stating that if you go deeper into it you will find it is nothing to do with religion but one's own *consciousness* that is the key even after *awareness* is there.

Best Wishes.
Love & rgds

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Goes to my point that the abrahamic religions poison everything, and should be eradicated like any other disease.

The only poison here is yours.

 

[Riverwolf]

Goes to my point that the abrahamic religions poison everything, and should be eradicated like any other disease.

How come you're using these groups to represent the entire population of Abrahamic followers?

It's the same kind of thinking that states that everyone who plays Doom wants to go on a killing rampage because of what Eric Harris did. And it's just as wrong.

 

[richardlowellt]

What pathetic slop. How many Jews and Christians have been involved in the funding, development, and distribution of vaccines?

And how many have barred the advances of medical science along the way. How many polio free children might there now be in Nigeria had not religion foiled it's distribution. How many of the poor and uneducated might have been spared their misery had it not been for the dogmatic and rigid Catholic church. It's pathetic that you don't realize the damage the abrahamic religions have done over the course of our species.

 

[richardlowellt]

How come you're using these groups to represent the entire population of Abrahamic followers?

I do have more if you like, I thought the three instances I highlighted would be enough, but I'll give you more a diverse examples if you like.

 

[richardlowellt]

The only poison here is yours.

I fully expect you to defend your religion.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I do have more if you like, I thought the three instances I highlighted would be enough, but I'll give you more a diverse examples if you like.

No doubt you collect them. It's apparently your style ...

Did I mention pathetic bigotry?

 

[richardlowellt]

No doubt you collect them. It's apparently your style ...

Did I mention pathetic bigotry?[/QUOTE

]Yes, the same way I am bigoted toward any diseases, toward any close minded dogma, toward rigid religious beliefs that stand in the way of medical and scientific progress.

 

[Riverwolf]

I do have more if you like, I thought the three instances I highlighted would be enough, but I'll give you more a diverse examples if you like.

Unless you could provide examples that EVERYONE who follows a religion cannot think for himself or herself, even with a good education, and is unable to make disciplined and educated choices, I will remain in my position.

Besides, I could give you many examples which could point to an equally wrong stance that atheistic materialism is as poisonous as you think religion is. None of them would make that stance any more right.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Yes, the same way I am bigoted toward any diseases, ...

The only disease here is your bigotry and it's as ugly as it is vapid ...

 

[richardlowellt]

The only disease here is your bigotry and it's as ugly as it is vapid ...

Do you have something intelligent to add or are you just going to hurl insults? As I said, I fully expect you to defend your religion, so quit crying and defend away!!!

 

[BruceDLimber]

So sorry, Richard, but your scattershot attack is a good example of overgeneralization!

The Baha'i Faith is eminently Abrahamic, and it not only endorses science as well as religion, but explicitly instructs us to see doctors when ill!

So there are clear exceptions (this is just one of many) to what I consider your overbroad assertion.

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Do you have something intelligent to add or are you just going to hurl insults? As I said, I fully expect you to defend your religion, so quit crying and defend away!!!

:biglaugh:

What a pathetic joke. I have more than a few detractors on this forum, but I would be truly surprised if you could find a coherent one who believes that my contempt for bigotry has anything whatsoever to do with defending my religion or any other religion.

The fact of the matter is that your petty and intellectually bankrupt little attack on Abrahamic religions barely rises to the level of juvenile debate. Were one to take you seriously one could, with equal justification, ridicule atheism because someone like you can make and defend such utterly stupid arguments.

 

[syberpriend]

I dont think religion has to do something with disease and give any harm, there are taost who dont follow, yet they have problems, in communism also ppl got worst problems, so plz dont bring religion in this, its something seperate with personal health.
Infact, many religions emphasize on personal hygene and healthcare to be maintain, if some person dont want to follow, its that person own will, relgion has nothing to blame about.