Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Dead

[LuisDantas]

Killing Bin Laden did not prevent Abu Bakr. Killing Abu Bakr is not going to prevent the world's next master-terrorist. Worse, sooner or later, one of those guys is going to get his or her hands on a weapon of mass destruction. This game of killing them one after the other at the very best is only delaying the day of reckoning.

The problem of terrorism must be solved. Killing ain't the solution -- even if it is a holding action (and it can be debated whether killing is even an effective holding action).

I so agree.

Leaders of terrorists have been slaughtered with determination since at least the 1970s.

It is not even clear that it helped any.

 

[Father Heathen]

Good riddance. Let's hope for a long-term, positive effect from this.
I suppose Trump deserves the same amount of credit for this that Obama deserved for Osama.

 

[esmith]

The traditional expression is "checks and ballances".

Has nothing to do with this situation. The President is Commander and Chief and all he did was authorize an operation that was brought to him by the military.
Do you think that Obama asked for Congressional approval when he gave the go to capture or kill bin-Laden?

Bin Laden: Priority Number One - The Obama Years: An Oral History | HISTORY

 

[LuisDantas]

Has nothing to do with this situation. The President is Commander and Chief and all he did was authorize an operation that was brought to him by the military.
Do you think that Obama asked for Congressional approval when he gave the go to capture or kill bin-Laden?

Bin Laden: Priority Number One - The Obama Years: An Oral History | HISTORY

SO MUCH bias. I wonder how Americans deal with that.

 

[Cooky]

SO MUCH bias. I wonder how Americans deal with that.

The AUMF was passed in 2001. It declares that the president can authorize attacks at will against terrorists abroad without congressional approval.

...This was an expansion of authority granted to the Commander in Chief, who is already the supreme commander of both the Army and Navy.

The U.S. Special Operations Command is a branch of the U.S. Army, which Trump is supreme commander of, anyway. In the same way, Obama used Navy Seals for Bin Laden, of which he was the supreme commander.

 

[LuisDantas]

Oh, right. It was one of the most destructive consequences of 9/11.

 

[WalterTrull]

Haven't heard you saying anything about the Obama Administration tooting their horn over the death of bin Laden

I'll have to go back and see. Did they? Did they Gloat? Not helpful if they dd. Hate is so recursive. It builds and builds until it self destructs. I'd like to help, but I'm chicken. I want to be in someplace else. Hawaii maybe?

 

[esmith]

I'll have to go back and see. Did they? Did they Gloat? Not helpful if they dd. Hate is so recursive. It builds and builds until it self destructs. I'd like to help, but I'm chicken. I want to be in someplace else. Hawaii maybe?

this might answer your question.
Death of Bin Laden: SEALs are heroes but Team Obama should have shut up about mission details

 

[Cooky]

Oh, right. It was one of the most destructive consequences of 9/11.

"The Obama White House further explained that it interpreted the 2001 AUMF to cover the use of force against ISIS based on the group’s “longstanding relationship with al-Qa’ida (AQ)"

What the AUMF Is and Why You Should Care | Bipartisan Policy Center

...Essentially, the president has been given full authority to take out Islamic terrorists abroad, aligned with al-Qa'ida, at any time, no matter who the current president might be.... Until this law is amended, which of course, it shouldn't be.

 

[esmith]

Killing Bin Laden did not prevent Abu Bakr. Killing Abu Bakr is not going to prevent the world's next master-terrorist. Worse, sooner or later, one of those guys is going to get his or her hands on a weapon of mass destruction. This game of killing them one after the other at the very best is only delaying the day of reckoning.

The problem of terrorism must be solved. Killing ain't the solution -- even if it is a holding action (and it can be debated whether killing is even an effective holding action).

I so agree.

Leaders of terrorists have been slaughtered with determination since at least the 1970s.

It is not even clear that it helped any.

Sure it has, it has ridden the earth of some cockroaches and in addition the operations have given our Special Operation community the opportunities to improve.