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Accepting Christ

Ody

Well-Known Member
It all depends, in reality he isn't because he sends all who are just to heaven. So in reality he is not, but if he demands belief to gain salvation :)
Than he is prone to a base human feeling, which he as G-d is not!
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
AlanGurvey said:
It all depends, in reality he isn't because he sends all who are just to heaven. So in reality he is not, but if he demands belief to gain salvation :)
Than he is prone to a base human feeling, which he as G-d is not!
More like...we, as humans are prone to God based feelings.;)
 

Ody

Well-Known Member
dawny0826 said:
No. I'm saying God reserves the right to demand attention.
Not when he acts in a foolish way and sends good men and women to hell! ANY BEING THAT SENDS MEN LIKE GHANDI TO HELL IS MERELY A LITTLE BOY WITH HIS FATHERS GUN! NO MATURITY!
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
AlanGurvey said:
Not when he acts in a foolish way and sends good men and women to hell! ANY BEING THAT SENDS MEN LIKE GHANDI TO HELL IS MERELY A LITTLE BOY WITH HIS FATHERS GUN! NO MATURITY!
So, you're questioning God's maturity?

I for one, do not consider my God foolish in any way. I think He knows what He's doing.

I don't know the heart of Ghandi. But God did. And whatever happened to Ghandi in death is between Ghandi and God.

As a Christian, in my faith...I can only stand firm on what I believe and I believe that Christ is the key to salvation.
 

Ody

Well-Known Member
dawny0826 said:
So, you're questioning God's maturity?

I for one, do not consider my God foolish in any way. I think He knows what He's doing.

I don't know the heart of Ghandi. But God did. And whatever happened to Ghandi in death is between Ghandi and God.

As a Christian, in my faith...I can only stand firm on what I believe and I believe that Christ is the key to salvation.
I for one do not consider G-d immature, because i know above all else G-d is rational and just and enlightened. When you are at the apex of the three qualities you tend to not care if people praise you or not, but care about the more important aspects of thier personality

Thier deeds!

This is what G-d measures you on if you are to attain salvation, he is not a selfish child who demands recognition! AND YES YOU DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO GHANDI IN CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY! JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T PRAISE THE HOLY SPIRIT HE IS NOW DESTINDED TO HELL IN THE CHRISTIAN OUTLOOK!


And when you are the most powerful and intelligent being in existance, base emotions such as pride do not plaque you :)
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
AlanGurvey said:
I for one do not consider G-d immature, because i know above all else G-d is rational and just and enlightened. When you are at the apex of the three qualities you tend to not care if people praise you or not, but care about the more important aspects of thier personality

Thier deeds!

This is what G-d measures you on if you are to attain salvation, he is not a selfish child who demands recognition! AND YES YOU DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO GHANDI IN CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY! JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T PRAISE THE HOLY SPIRIT HE IS NOW DESTINDED TO HELL IN THE CHRISTIAN OUTLOOK!


And when you are the most powerful and intelligent being in existance, base emotions such as pride do not plaque you :)
I so agree with you on your last statement.:)

And I won't argue with you that salvation WAS obtained through deeds AND obedience at one time. And again, I know you won't agree with me here and I don't expect you to...I just want to lay out where I'm coming from here.

I believe that God loved us so much that he came to earth and showed us how to live our lives through Jesus Christ, who I believe was God in the flesh. He then hung on a cross in agony, taking upon himself all of the sins of the world, so that if we chose to believe in him and abandon our will and follow him, we could have everlasting life with our Heavenly Father. And when accepting the sacrifice that God made for us...the ultimate atonement for our sins...we have it...we have everlasting life...we have salvation in Christ and receive the indwelling of God's precious Spirit.

There is nothing selfish about this view on salvation. Most Christians accept that fact that God loved us so much he sacrified Himself in the flesh for us. Belief and acceptance in that sacrifice saves us from sin...from hell.

I don't know the heart of Ghandi. But God certainly does. And perhaps you and I can both agree upon the fact that God doesn't make mistakes. Whatever judgement God makes is just.
 

shema

Active Member
If im not mistaken, I think, that if anyone who has not heard the good news of christ. then God would have put you under the Golden rule. Love thy neighbor as thyself. I think thats only if you have not heard of christ. but if you have heard of christ, I think you fall under his new covenant
 

Hacker

Well-Known Member
To those of you who believe in hell if one isn't a Christian is quite scary. There are many childeren in other countries where other religions are prevalent(east) and those children are brought up to believe in that religion associated with the family and never even heard of christianity. It would be pretty sad to know that they're going to hell.
 

Squirt

Well-Known Member
tlcmel said:
To those of you who believe in hell if one isn't a Christian is quite scary. There are many childeren in other countries where other religions are prevalent(east) and those children are brought up to believe in that religion associated with the family and never even heard of christianity. It would be pretty sad to know that they're going to hell.
First off, I totally agree with you. But I'm curious as to how you reconcile your belief to what the New Testament appears to be teaching.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
nutshell said:
This was posted in another thread and, as a Christian, I have a problem with it. This belief doesn't seem to be in line with the compassionate and loving God I find in the scriptures.

So, to the Christians who believe the above statement, what happens to all those folks who never had an opportunity to hear of Christ and accept him?
i personally do not believe it, and as such, i have no problem with it.
 
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