According to Science - You are a Satanic Being

[Orias]

Alright then, indulge me. Why do you suppose the atomic weight of carbon has any bearing on our relative 'adversarialness' ? Specifically how it results in our carbon-baseness further leading to our adversarialness. I'd you wouldn't mind connecting those dots. While you're at it, feel free to explain the connection between biophotons, the atomic weight of carbon, carbon-baseness and finally adversarialness.

How is it relative? Well that's a question I think you should be capable of answering on your own.

I think the better definition would be "opposition". I think advesary has a tone of sentience, don't you think? Opposition in existence is just that. If you would describe something as opposition, it would most likely be something that is physical and imposing right?

What does biophotons have to do with carbon? Well biophotons are found in all biological life, and are thus directly related.

 

[Valjean]

Basically, it's light. It's in everything we can observe. Even darkness.

I'm still unclear on this. I know what a photon is, but what's a biophoton? "Everything we can observe" is so broad it renders the term meaningless.
So there's nothing that's not 'biophoton'? "Biophoton" means the universe; reality itself?
How can darkness -- the absence of light -- be light?

So because I believe demons are real I can't understand what carbon based means? That seems unreasonable .

You believe in demons? That seems unreasonable.
Evidence?

 

[Sir Doom]

How is it relative? Well that's a question I think you should be capable of answering on your own.

No, that isn't what I asked. I asked how it is determined by the atomic weight of carbon.

I think the better definition would be "opposition". I think advesary has a tone of sentience, don't you think?

Useless semantics, but why not? Opposition it is. Explain how the atomic weight of carbon determines or oppositionalness.

Opposition in existence is just that. If you would describe something as opposition, it would most likely be something that is physical and imposing right?

Not climbing in any boxes today. Opposition is too broad to accept the above.

What does biophotons have to do with carbon? Well biophotons are found in all biological life, and are thus directly related.

So, then how do biophotons cause the atomic weight of carbon to cause our carbon-baseness to cause our oppositionalness?

Same question, try again.

 

[Orias]

What's a biophoton?[/QUOTE

Light

I thought 'Christ' meant "annointed."

In greek, yes. In Latin it is different and means also "bearer of light"

Who or What Is this Being Called

We have no evidence of a personified "adversary."

We don't? Isn't that the premise of all human debate and altercation?

In what ways, and what's the significance of this?

In what ways? If something is reduced to a mere human construct...in what ways is it NOT an expression of ourselves? That's what I want to know. And what's the significance? I guess it has to do with morality, if one sees they are the epitome of balance in this existence that arised from collision then it can be truly empowering in my eyes, or the opposite depending on who gets to the well first.

 

[Orias]

I'm still unclear on this. I know what a photon is, but what's a biophoton? "Everything we can observe" is so broad it renders the term meaningless.
So there's nothing that's not 'biophoton'? "Biophoton" means the universe; reality itself?
How can darkness -- the absence of light -- be light?

Basically, but it's not meaningless when it allows us to make observations of our physical reality.

Biophotons are light produced by biological systems, mostly found in life but pretty much anywhere there is bacteria.

Darkness as we observe it is charged with what we call "biophotons". It's not emitting them per se


Biophotons Contribute to Retinal Dark Noise

You believe in demons? That seems unreasonable.
Evidence?

Why is that unreasonable? Do you not believe in human spirit and willpower? Now THAT seems irrational .

I don't believe in them as in I "follow them". I believe in them like I believe they exist, and that essentially we are descendents of them. Of course, we live in totally different times as well .

 

[Valjean]

If a biophoton is light, what's a photon?

"Who or What Is this Being Called"

This is a religious exegesis; apologetics, not linguistics.

We don't? Isn't that the premise of all human debate and altercation?

No. I think it's an extremely unusual premise, outside of certain Christian religious groups.

In what ways? If something is reduced to a mere human construct...in what ways is it NOT an expression of ourselves? That's what I want to know. And what's the significance?

I don't see the significance. It's our nature to make things up -- so what? What's that have to do with reality?

I guess it has to do with morality, if one sees they are the epitome of balance in this existence that arised from collision then it can be truly empowering in my eyes, or the opposite depending on who gets to the well first.

What does all this have to do with morality? Am I missing something?

 

[Orias]

No, that isn't what I asked. I asked how it is determined by the atomic weight of carbon.

Oh, so what you're asking is what the symbolic value of the number 6 in occultism.

Thats a great question.

Basically it's the soul. At least in the occult view, mankind exists in a state duality between good and evil. In the occult, we developed the idea of the big bang. It's one based entirely off opposition .

Useless semantics, but why not? Opposition it is. Explain how the atomic weight of carbon determines or oppositionalness.

It's not useless, words have meaning. Satan is both a spirit and can exist in the flesh. It's rare nowdays in "civilization", at least in the true form of the sense. Oppositional will is still much alive. To think of this, think every time you drive your car or leave your safe home you face potential death. Also, being a human, we are the apex predators of the world, so we not only face harm ourselves on a daily basis we also have the great potential to harm other life. And we do. It's easy to forget that when we go to the grocery store.

Not in any boxes today. Opposition is too broad to accept the above.

Lazy thinking eh? It's to broad? So you are hestitant to take it on? THAT, is opposition.

So, then how do biophotons cause the atomic weight of carbon to cause our carbon-baseness to cause our oppositionalness?

Now that is a great question! It's amazing we are all alive in the first place isn't it?

Same question, try again.

No, you.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

We are carbon based life, and made of biophotons.

The carbon atom has the atomic number 6. The atom is made of 6 electrons, 6 protons, and 6 neutrons.

The Latin words "Christ" and "Lucifer" both essentially mean "bearer of light".

"Satan" translates to "adversary" or "opposition", so we know Satan is definitely not agreeable. And we can also say that if God/Satan duality is merely a human construct, then it's inherently reflective of our own nature.

There's a little more to humans than carbon and biophotons. Science does not say what you say it says. According to science, I think you're suffering from apophenia

 

[Valjean]

Biophotons are light produced by biological systems, mostly found in life but pretty much anywhere there is bacteria.

So biophotons are the glow of luminescent organisms?
We've all seen fireflies, and luminescent marine life is well known, but what does all this have to do with the nature of reality or with morality?

Darkness as we observe it is charged with what we call "biophotons". It's not emitting them per se

We don't "observe" darkness, and what are these dark, invisible, biophotonic particles/molecules you claim are floating around in the darkness?
I've never read anything about photons -- bio or otherwise -- floating around in the dark.

[Biophotons Contribute to Retinal Dark Noise

Did you read this article? What does it have to do with epistemology or particle physics?

Why is that unreasonable? Do you not believe in human spirit and willpower? Now THAT seems irrational .

"Human spirit and willpower" are abstractions. You're positing an actual, physical, conscious and intentional entity. There is no empirical evidence of such a personage, just as there is none for unicorns.
Do you believe in unicorns and faeries, as well?

I don't believe in them as in I "follow them". I believe in them like I believe they exist, and that essentially we are descendents of them. Of course, we live in totally different times as well .

See above.
Evidence?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

@Orias, just FYI, some people asked questions in your other thread after you left. I'm sure we'd all appreciate your answers.

 

[Orias]

If a biophoton is light, what's a photon?

It's also light. Biophoton is basically light, but it's special in the sense it's emitted by biological structures. Like I said before .

This is a religious exegesis; apologetics, not linguistics.

Not really, a lot of our words come from religious context. In fact, it is suggested written language originated in the form of religious ceremony, but the Sumerians tell a different story.

The source itself is apologetics, so apologetics can't use linguistics?

No. I think it's an extremely unusual premise, outside of certain Christian religious groups.

So you're saying debate is generally agreeable and the most oppositional group you've encountered is Christians?

I don't see the significance. It's our nature to make things up -- so what? What's that have to do with reality?

So what you're asking is, what's the significance of expression (assuming reality is a human construct)? Well then I'd say that literally everything we can observe depends on our observation to exist.

But learning to observe properly has many facets.

For example. Everyone can observe a car driving down the road.

But how many can tell if a person might be armed based on how they interact in person or through message? Or observe a brain scan? Or read a person's potential for physical movement? It goes on and on as there are many examples I'm sure you can relate too.

What does all this have to do with morality? Am I missing something?

It all ties together. Morality is a result of observation as defined by what I said said above.

 

[Orias]

@Orias, just FYI, some people asked questions in your other thread after you left. I'm sure we'd all appreciate your answers.

Feel free to message me so you can show me .

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Feel free to message me so you can show me .

Almost Everything You Think You Know Is A Lie

 

[Orias]

So biophotons are the glow of luminescent organisms?
We've all seen fireflies, and luminescent marine life is well known, but what does all this have to do with the nature of reality or with morality?

No, biophotons are light measured on the EMF scale. Unless you can physically see UV with your eyes.

We don't "observe" darkness, and what are these dark, invisible, biophotonic particles/molecules you claim are floating around in the darkness?
I've never read anything about photons -- bio or otherwise -- floating around in the dark.
Did you read this article? What does it have to do with epistemology or particle physics?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5563773/

We don't observe darkness? And what empirical observable evidence is this based on?

"Human spirit and willpower" are abstractions. You're positing an actual, physical, conscious and intentional entity. There is no empirical evidence of such a personage, just as there is none for unicorns.

What am I position an actual, physical, conscious and intentional evidence? Are you saying abstractions don't apply to observing reality?

Do you believe in unicorns and faeries, as well?
See above.
Evidence?

I believe at one point there may have existed such creatures that might resemble them that have become extinct.

 

[Orias]

Almost Everything You Think You Know Is A Lie

Yea, feel free to message me what specific questions you so we can keep this thread separate.

Thanks

 

[Orias]

There's a little more to humans than carbon and biophotons. Science does not say what you say it says. According to science, I think you're suffering from apophenia

Obviously there's a "little more", but I'm simply addressing the majority and trying to simplify something abstract.

But thanks for you're opinion. Science is nothing more than a process. Phsycology isn't a classical science so the argument is invalid. And also you're assuming the symbol of Satan is an ominous one, but it is only if you have fear in your heart. Warriors don't go to Hell.

 

[Valjean]

It's also light. Biophoton is basically light, but it's special in the sense it's emitted by biological structures. Like I said before .

Before, you said biophotons were everything; the stuff of reality.

What makes light emitted by a firefly or fungus any different from that emitted by a light bulb -- and how would this relate to either metaphysics or morality?
A photon's a photon -- regardless of its source.

We don't? Isn't that the premise of all human debate and altercation?

So you're saying debate is generally agreeable and the most oppositional group you've encountered is Christians?

We don't? Isn't that the premise of all human debate and altercation?

No, I'm saying an invisible opponent with no empirical evidence of his existence is not a universal major premise in human discussions of morality or religion. Such an entity is not a universal belief.

It all ties together. Morality is a result of observation as defined by what I said said above.

Still not seeing your point. You seem to be incorporating biophotons, 666, and so on into some kind of Gestalt.
What does all this have to do with the art of living together amicably?

 

[Walterbl]

I just love the number six for no reason!!!

Obsession with numerology and the number 6 is also associated with mental illness

 

[Valjean]

No, biophotons are light measured on the EMF scale. Unless you can physically see UV with your eyes.

UV? Who said anything about UV?
You keep changing your definition of biophotons. What are biophotons, and what do they have to do with satanic beings?

What am I position an actual, physical, conscious and intentional evidence? Are you saying abstractions don't apply to observing reality?

You're proposing an actual, tangible creature. I'm asking for actual, empirical evidence.

I believe at one point there may have existed such creatures that might resemble them that have become extinct.

What evidence do you base this belief on? Are their fossils?

 

[Orias]

Before, you said biophotons were everything; the stuff of reality.

Well basically, we already addressed that reality is a consequence of perception. Or something along the lines.

What makes light emitted by a firefly or fungus any different from that emitted by a light bulb -- and how would this relate to either metaphysics or morality?
A photon's a photon -- regardless of its source.

You're confusing bioluminescence with biophoton. Biophoton is light emission on the UV spectrum of EMF.

No, I'm saying an invisible opponent with no empirical evidence of his existence is not a universal major premise in human discussions of morality or religion. Such an entity is not a universal belief.

No "major empirical evidence". Either you are able to observe opposition or you are not. Have you ever watched a UFC fight? Or considered we are debating using opposing views?

Satan is a major player in discussions of morality and religion and it is totally universal.

Still not seeing your point. You seem to be incorporating biophotons, 666, and so on into some kind of Gestalt.
What does all this have to do with the art of living together amicably?

That's a good question. To that I would beg the quality or standard of those we live amongst.

Sheep can live together amicably.

So can wolves.

Humans are neither, and evil does exist. It's easy to say it doesn't when you aren't fighting a war, or after it once you realize most of them are proxy wars. Then again...would you sympathize with a robber or murder who kills to live? Or would you critisize them and tell them to get a job?