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According to the Bible, ALL people will eventually be in Heaven

Messianic Israelite

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ALL people will, eventually, repent and become believers and followers of Jesus. However, most of those only do so AFTER they die.

Hi Patrick66. Good afternoon. That isn't true at all and cannot be supported by the Bible. What did Yahshua say in Matthew 7:13-14. He speaks of destruction of those in the majority. Destruction means annihilation in the Lake of Fire.
 

crossbody

Member
ALL people will, eventually, repent and become believers and followers of Jesus. However, most of those only do so AFTER they die.
Holy Bible scriptures states that..

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

It's my belief that the fixed order is to die once only, and to be judged after death. Therefore after death is judgment, not repentance.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
Holy Bible scriptures states that..

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

It's my belief that the fixed order is to die once only, and to be judged after death. Therefore after death is judgment, not repentance.
death is the judgment, its paid for with death. after that ,one would have to live again to then receive a new judgment for things done
 

crossbody

Member
ALL people will, eventually, repent and become believers and followers of Jesus. However, most of those only do so AFTER they die.
death is the judgment, its paid for with death. after that ,one would have to live again to then receive a new judgment for things done
well, if you're speaking of Jesus death being the judgment... I believe Jesus death is the payment and his blood is the atonement for our sins...not the judgment. Consider this, even if one is not born again (as you say, live again) they will still be judged after they die. Our spirit will report to God of everything we have done and said on earth.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
ALL people will, eventually, repent and become believers and followers of Jesus. However, most of those only do so AFTER they die.
IMOP that's true in the sense that heaven is where we will be judged and either condemned or survive. Those who do not want eternal life are obliterated. It will be as if they never lived.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
well, if you're speaking of Jesus death being the judgment... I believe Jesus death is the payment and his blood is the atonement for our sins...not the judgment. Consider this, even if one is not born again (as you say, live again) they will still be judged after they die. Our spirit will report to God of everything we have done and said on earth.
no
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Justinian writes in:

The Anathematisms of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen.

(Labbe and Cossart, Concilia, Tom. v., col. 677.),

If anyone says or thinks that the punishment of demons and of impious men is only temporary, and will one day have an end, and that a restoration (ἀποκατάστασις
) will take place of demons and of impious men, let him be anathema.


This is a specific heresy when put these ways, so I don't believe it's true.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
well, if you're speaking of Jesus death being the judgment... I believe Jesus death is the payment and his blood is the atonement for our sins...not the judgment. Consider this, even if one is not born again (as you say, live again) they will still be judged after they die. Our spirit will report to God of everything we have done and said on earth.
no one is judged after they have died .they would have to live again to receive a new judgement for things done
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
well, if you're speaking of Jesus death being the judgment... I believe Jesus death is the payment and his blood is the atonement for our sins...not the judgment. Consider this, even if one is not born again (as you say, live again) they will still be judged after they die. Our spirit will report to God of everything we have done and said on earth.
no , speaking of any and all that sin. its our own death that pays for our own sin. what Jesus' death does is make it possible for us to live again here on earth. perhaps you have read of the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous ?
 
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cataway

Well-Known Member
Well, the book of Job is included and it is far more defamatory to religion than any apocrypha texts..:)
I only mentioned it because someone wrote that all people will be saved.
yes saved. saved from what ? the answer is saved from death
 

Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
ksHi Patrick66. Good afternoon. That isn't true at all and cannot be supported by the Bible. What did Yahshua say in Matthew 7:13-14. He speaks of destruction of those in the majority. Destruction means annihilation in the Lake of Fire.
Thanks.....I needed that information. It will help give me indigestion
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
its not the age thats the problem . its how one feels . if you feel like a 20 year old win win
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
I don’t think so….

Jesus said the meek will “inherit the earth.” - Matthew 5:5

Please read Psalm 37:29….

Isaiah 11:9 says, “ the Earth will be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.”

And Revelation 21:3,4 says, “With that, I heard a loud voice from the thrones say,’Look! the tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples; and God Himself will be with them. And He will wipe out every tear from their eyes and death will be no more neither mourning or crying nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.’”

“Mankind” are those on Earth.

Proverbs 2:21,22….”For the upright will inhabit the land, and those with integrity will remain in it. But as for the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and the treacherous will be torn away from it.”

Isaiah 45:18…”For thus saith Jehovah that created the heavens, the God that formed the earth and made it, that established it and created it not a waste, that formed it to be inhabited: ‘I am Jehovah; and there is none else.’”

Have a good day, my cousin.
 
ALL people will, eventually, repent and become believers and followers of Jesus. However, most of those only do so AFTER they die.
If you are able to just repent after you die and then go to heaven, what's the point of having faith and doing good in the world? Wouldn't that mean that I can just go on a hedonistic binge, die, and still go to heaven? Sorry but even without going deep into specific doctrinal debates and scriptures, what you're saying just doesn't make much sense to me.
 
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