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[McBell]

Umm..actually we started with your fallacy. You said that the earth is filthy. Where did you get that? I agree that mankind is ruining the earth. But surely the earth's creation shouts the glory of God:

"For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable."-Romans 1:20.

Which fallacy is that, exactly?

And what does this above quoted post have to do with your changing past tense to future tense?

 

[Eyes to See]

Which fallacy is that, exactly?

And what does this above quoted post have to do with your changing past tense to future tense?

It seems that it is self explanatory.

Look how the same prophet worded another prophecy:

“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.”- (Isaiah 53:3)

Now this was written long before Jesus came to earth and the prophecy was fulfilled. Yet the same prophet referred to this event as already having happened, past tense. Why do you think that is?


Bonus, here is another prophecy that had yet to be fulfilled written in the past tense, by Enoch, even prior to the flood:

"Yes, the seventh one in line from Adam, Eʹnoch, also prophesied about them when he said: “Look! Jehovah came with his holy myriads  to execute judgment against all, and to convict all the ungodly concerning all their ungodly deeds that they did in an ungodly way, and concerning all the shocking things that ungodly sinners spoke against him.”-Jude 14, 15.


Why do you think the prophet wrote this past tense as if it had already taken place?

 

[danieldemol]

Umm..actually we started with your fallacy. You said that the earth is filthy. Where did you get that? I agree that mankind is ruining the earth.

It was the general impression I got that you were describing the world as filled with unclean worship, but perhaps that impression was wrong.

 

[Eyes to See]

It was the general impression I got that you were describing the world as filled with unclean worship, but perhaps that impression was wrong.

Ah, I see. I think where the lines are crossed is the usage of the word world, I like to call it world, more than earth.

The world of mankind in the Bible is always in reference to humans that do not serve Jehovah. The Bible can also refer to mankind as the earth, and the ruling class as the heaven.

The earth you were talking about is the literal earth, God created, and filled with Jehovah's glory.

 

[McBell]

It seems that it is self explanatory.

Obviously not.

My experience has been that those who claim something is self explanatory can not explain it and thus fall to what they think is a safety net of proclaiming it self explanatory.

Look how the same prophet worded another prophecy:

“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.”- (Isaiah 53:3)

Now this was written long before Jesus came to earth and the prophecy was fulfilled. Yet the same prophet referred to this event as already having happened, past tense. Why do you think that is?

Um...
It was not about Jesus...

 

[Eyes to See]

My experience has been that those who claim something is self explanatory can not explain it and thus fall to what they think is a safety net of proclaiming it self explanatory.

I already explained it. If you are not seeing it, either my explanation failed, or your understanding failed. I am going to guess you are not understanding, as you don't even understand that Isaiah 53:3 is referring to Jesus Christ. And I think that has more to do with a heart condition, than with intellectual capacity.

 

[McBell]

I already explained it. If you are not seeing it, either my explanation failed, or your understanding failed. I am going to guess you are not understanding, as you don't even understand that Isaiah 53:3 is referring to Jesus Christ. And I think that has more to do with a heart condition, than with intellectual capacity.

Except you have said nothing about the fallacy you claimed occurred except to claim there was a fallacy.
So no, you did not explain it.

Taking a statement about the past and declaring it a prophecy of the future is the best you got?

 

[rational experiences]

The theme. Life sacrificed. Attack. Would come again. Second coming was the quote.

Shroud of Turin kept as the evidence.

Baha'i also own male life changed.

First event. Law mountain.

Fusion broke earth seal. Sink hole earth core radiation X mass God answer.

Why science quotes God will give it back.. not once but twice.

Law relativity.

No scientist controls first law. Womb vacuum mother space. Holder of all forms held as m and a s s.

Theme holy mother rides on donkey a symbolism. Means space owns mass. Mass travels in space wandering.

A relative law advice.

Vacuum changed active core heart God O earth.

Male quotes I caused it.

History Satan. First science core eruption.

Vacuum. Origin stone law changed.

Moses. Did it second time. Quotes to mother earth. Ancients taught goddess earth actually as thesis.

Law vacuum altered twice.

Planet mass balances all changed introduced by heated black holes. The reason it returns.

Past science occult males were telling the truth. They witnessed the effect.

You were warned.

 

[Audie]

Umm..actually we started with your fallacy. You said that the earth is filthy. Where did you get that? I agree that mankind is ruining the earth. But surely the earth's creation shouts the glory of God:

"For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable."-Romans 1:20.

You are seeing but a fantasy interposed,
thro' whose gauzy veil you but dimly
glimpse nature.