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Adios europe, hello Islam!?

Crypto2015

Active Member
Pretending rightist and nazi movements don't commit crimes of terror is discrediting important issues.

T_C said nazi's, so little point bringing up fascists because he never mentioned them, you are associating nazism with fascism which is an unneeded generalization. Pretending nazi hatecrime doesn't occur and cause terror is factually incorrect.


That is also a generalization we don't need. There have been many mass shooting motivated by nazism, social Darwinism, and many other political and religious groups.. A quick google discredits your point.

To respond to OP,
If the European union took in every single Syrian refugee the percentage of Muslim population would only increase from 4% to 5%, so they are hardly "taking over" in any sense.

I am not saying that Nazis are harmless. All I am saying is that Islamic terrorism is much, much, more important than right wing terrorism. I don't even remember the last time a right-wing terrorist made it to the news.
 

Crypto2015

Active Member
Oh, please.
That's incorrect on so many levels. ISIS wants a showdown with the west, the "crusaders" as they call them.
They want Allah to come and smite the non-believers.

They don't really want to die fighting. They want to establish a worldwide Islamic theocracy. That has always been Islam's wet dream.
 

vaguelyhumanoid

Active Member
Ludicrous. When was the last time that a Nazi group took down the Twin Towers? When was the last time that a far right group used a pressure bomb to kill people during a marathon? When was the last time that a fascist group blow up the Madrid Metro, or the London Metro? When was the last time that fascists killed all of the journalists of Charlie Hebdo? When was the last time that Nazis started shooting everyone in Paris?

Ever heard of Dylann Roof? or Anders Breivik? Obviously Nazis haven't done literally the exact same terrorist attacks.
 

vaguelyhumanoid

Active Member
The person in power of ISIS would not have "supreme" power, seeing as they have to justify everything with the qu'ran in order to manipulate the masses.
So it doesn't fall under the autocratic category.

Definitely theocratic dictatorship though.

You seem to have a somewhat unusual definition of "autocratic". IIRC Daesh has also gone against the Qu'ran by murdering Muslims from rival sects.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I do not believe the Islamic hegemony will be successful, in the long term. The reason is, I am observing the dramatic rise of populist right-wing in America, and now the same in Europe of a "nationalist" twist that will bring about changes unforeseen by the open borders crowd (which is really another false narrative, they are only open borders to those who they think will forward their agenda, not to everyone, example Obama open to Muslim men of military age, but rude and rejectful to Syrian Christians being mass murdered by Muslim men of military age ... and don't be fooled by the "women and children" routine, under the agenda of Obama et all, the entire family and relatives are part of the legalities of this agenda, which means even more Muslim men of military age for everyone of these "refugees") ...

Misunderstood by the left, but I really don't care what misconceptions they have frankly, is their perception, the "nature" of this new nationalism. They think it is "regional", jingoist, e.g. France for French, American isolationalist, etc...

Wrong. This Nationalism is International - doesn't matter if it sounds contradictory. The American "anti-establishment" right-wing viz sometimes called Nationalists, they are working directly with the Dutch right-wing, in contact via the new digital world with a hard-core anti-jihadee-Islamic Belgians, there are cross-communications with India, Thailand, Argentina, Columbia, and around it goes. New fronts are opening up in Germany, Russia, Hungary.

This "Nationalism" is indeed International. It is a Nationalism of Nations opposed to radical Islam. It isn't Christian, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or Jewish, this is literally a New Wave that is all those things and something assertive and non-submissive and they will invade next if pushed just a bit further.

I agree now with Trump - no more "Syrian refugees" viz these type of Muslims. Maybe that might change in the furture. But not now.

My estimate is that 1 out of 5 Muslims from those regions are terrorists. They fully support terrorism in the name of jihad and conquest and enslavement. They may put on a suicide belt at any moment, but ... They may also not put on a suicide belt but would set off a dirty bomb or gas others if given a chance, or happily run concentration camps and participate as camp enforcers and death camp police, or burn people in cages, or at least watch people burn in cages and have their kids watch, too. They would like to watch others burn to death like watching some sing Islamic songs, first burn or behead others for being homosexuals and witches of some sort, and then as soon as they can, next they support burning others to death or behead them for not converting to Islam or even if they did convert they would kill them anyway for not being "Muslim enough". Slavery would be introduced or practiced more openly where it already exists, the first to be made slaves after world conquest would be "blacks" who are not Muslim, but eventually they will get around to enslaving all blacks, black muslims included, as soon as there is complete Islamic dictatorship. They will say they would never enslave black Muslims, "look at Nigeria" (or they will say something like that nonsense). Then they will.

My estimate is, of the remaining who are not terrorists, 3 out of 5 support Muslim conquest and total hegemony and Islamic totalitarianism and sharia, but by more conventional means and more conventional warfare rather than suicide belts. They also support the Khalifa, and openly support sharia law. If someone uses terrorism, they might say they don't support it if pressed to give an opinion, but what they really are saying regarding suicide belts specifically is, not that they "don't support", but rather what they are really saying is "well, I personally wouldn't blow myself up with a suicide belt because I don't like the idea of killing myself because I like eating food and stuff". However, unless pressed to give an opinion on the matter, they remain quiet about it. No matter what country or where they go, they will never assimilate but demand you become them. These are the moderate Muslims.

On a world scale, there are some Muslims who do not believe in taking over the world. Probably 1 out of 5. Actually the numbers are higher than this if we include Muslims who are actually not Muslims but secular Muslims who live outside of "traditional Islamic lands" who say they are Muslim if asked because their Dad was a Muslim but really they aren't Muslim but secular and like blue jeans a lot. These are the ones the politicians call "the real Muslims", but actually these same politicians support "the rebels" who also want to take over the world so it is complicated. Some are those other Muslims that the politicians tell us are the majority. But generally, these would be some peoples who were forced to be Muslims in the past, who are pretty much sick of it, and sort of want to go back to "the old religion", or better yet become a Hollywood or Bollywood movie star. The girls hate Islam and want to wear designer clothes and fashions. The boys want girl friends who wear designer clothes and fashions. The elderly want to watch non-muslim TV and movies. These are the secular Muslims who might follow religion also but not really, not official Islam. They follow the religion which is like celebrating a holiday, or something to do with visiting grandma. For example, among them are also Muslims who like Muslim holidays and family meals and stuff like that, sort of like those who celebrate Christmas with a tree and presents but really aren't into the "entire churchy thing". You might find these Muslims at the Black Friday sale. They may even shove people at the Black Friday sale but they won't do thuggery like some others do. They are better than those thugs. Some support slavery in private.

Regarding these politicians who are supporters of moderate Muslims, they confuse the secular Muslims with moderate Muslims, and these politicians are also supporters of "rebels" who want to take over the world just like the terrorists do. These are mostly politicians looking for a vote. These are the ones who say Islam is a religion of peace like Bush W or like Jeb says or Hillary, or say Muslims are just like Buddhists or something. They say those who burn a guy to death in a locked cage with gasoline because he wasn't "muslim enough", or mass murder people in Paris, they say:

"They aren't the real Muslims. The real Muslims are out there somewhere, we don't know where but we are looking for them but haven't found them yet. But don't worry, we will find them, and then give them free healthcare."

Sycophancy has hit a new low, as the phony liberal news provides free campaign support for the election of these politicians and for moderate Muslims such as Obama the Christian.

As far as "immigration", this New Wave Right-Wing has learned from the agendists such as Obama. In America, when they come to power, they will play the same game. Only, instead of Syrian Muslims and illiterate dupes of fascism from Mexico, it will be millions of Hungarians, Russians, some Cubans, "special Muslims", Asians who oppose Islamic hegemony... many others. You see, they will play the same game.

Every demographic that puts this New Wave in the majority. Turn the tables.

The Islamic radicals invade others. But watch. This New Wave will invade them. And take booty. Oil, too. As reparations. If there are some Muslims who want to join this New Wave, welcome aboard, but you will need to be vetted.
 

Papoon

Active Member
Hmmm. Europeans. Ask the Australian aborigines, the native Americans, the Africans, the South Americans - in fact any non Europeans ( or non euro-
derivatives)
how their culture was affected by colonialism. I don't support anyone planning to rule the world actually. Sickos all. Caliphate or NWO ? It's half a dozen eggplants vs six aubergines.
 
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Papoon

Active Member
Compare that to the total gun deaths in America alone, and terrorism isn't quite as encompassingly important as we thought it was.
For that matter look at the number of traffic-related fatalities in India or Africa compared to Australia or Norway. Approximately 4-5 times the rate per head of population, because of the relative disregard for others' lives. And in India a huge number die in ambulances because, even with sirens blaring, noone will move out of the way. In fact, drivers fill the gap in front of the ambulance at any opportunity. There are far more deaths from that than from terrorism, but it doesn't affect tourism. And look at the meth (ice) trade, which could have been halted years ago when there were only a few sources of precursors (I'm thinking of pseudo ephedrine) in the world, easily watched. But the US govt decided that people needed it for stuffy noses, and thousands of tons found their way into North America causing untold death and mayhem. And of course financing covert ops and strengthening the underworld (same thing ?). Who cares ?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The person in power of ISIS would not have "supreme" power, seeing as they have to justify everything with the qu'ran in order to manipulate the masses.
So it doesn't fall under the autocratic category.

Definitely theocratic dictatorship though.

What does God or Allah have to do with it???
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
I'm not opposed to Muslims migrating to the West, what I am against however is them trying to enforce their way of life. My rule of thumb is if you cannot integrate to the society you migrated to, then go back home.

If Europe is smart they would limit the amount of benefits (Which should encourage new comers to have less kids), and ban religious missionary.
And this was one of the most super scripts I have ever had. Thank you darling. Would you pls figure out what you mean by new comers? 1 year? 5 year? 250 years? What is new for you?

How do the muslims enforce their way of life in the west? Pls try to explain and enlighten us. Pls also avoid
being funny.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
By the way,lets correct something; yes it is adios europe but was not hello islam.It was hello to africa,americas,australia,islands,etc. I guess they call it colonialism for which you have no worry about.Have you ever thought africans whose official language are still Portuguese? Or the deep south africa ?
 
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