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African vs Slavic genes

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Both are unrelated to one another but they absolutely dominate in sports that require fast twice muscle fibres. It's also reflected in their physiques
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm curious (in a genuine way) where you're getting these threads from.
It actually does interest me, such variations in the human body, because even among two people who are ethnically identical there are debates on who has the advantage. Like having long limbs or short limbs for lifting.
And, in a lot of ways, in many things, size isn't always the advantage, or an advantage.
lee9.jpg
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
I'm curious (in a genuine way) where you're getting these threads from.
It actually does interest me, such variations in the human body, because even among two people who are ethnically identical there are debates on who has the advantage. Like having long limbs or short limbs for lifting.
And, in a lot of ways, in many things, size isn't always the advantage, or an advantage.
lee9.jpg

Well the thread about German strongmen was because I find it difficult to get ripped and German strongman tend to have beer bellies as opposed to bodybuilders who do it for aesthetic purposes.

I don't see why some people choose to specialise in one thing: I want to be multitalented.

This thread in particular is about African and Slavs being physically dominant despite being of different races.

In wrestling it tends to be USA, Russia and Iran that dominates.
In judo it's actually the Japanese, Koreans, French and Russians.

Funnily enough Russians tend to be stronger than most of the above but it's often the more skilled / well coached individuals as opposed to who's stronger (not necessarily bigger as they're in the same weight classes but I believe the Slavics are stronger for the same size).
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well the thread about German strongmen was because I find it difficult to get ripped and German strongman tend to have beer bellies as opposed to bodybuilders who do it for aesthetic purposes.

I don't see why some people choose to specialise in one thing: I want to be multitalented.

This thread in particular is about African and Slavs being physically dominant despite being of different races.

In wrestling it tends to be USA, Russia and Iran that dominates.
In judo it's actually the Japanese, Koreans, French and Russians.

Funnily enough Russians tend to be stronger than most of the above but it's often the more skilled / well coached individuals as opposed to who's stronger (not necessarily bigger as they're in the same weight classes but I believe the Slavics are stronger for the same size).
The French (other than the Bretons) are predominately of the Franks, who were a Germanic people.
America is from everywhere.
Even Hossein Khosrow Ali Vaziri/The Iron Sheik is a moose among the Iranians, and someone his size is going to dominate in wrestling with adequate training and development no matter where he is from.
And sometimes even America wins soccer and hockey championships.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
The French (other than the Bretons) are predominately of the Franks, who were a Germanic people.
America is from everywhere.
Even Hossein Khosrow Ali Vaziri/The Iron Sheik is a moose among the Iranians, and someone his size is going to dominate in wrestling with adequate training and development no matter where he is from.
And sometimes even America wins soccer and hockey championships.

The French are Normans aren't they ? The Anglo-Saxons of Germany mixed with the French Normans to give us modern day Britons.

Celts are the original Britons
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Both are unrelated to one another but they absolutely dominate in sports that require fast twice muscle fibres. It's also reflected in their physiques
Africa has the most human genetic diversity of any continent. So you'll have to narrow it down more. :rolleyes:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The French are Normans aren't they ? The Anglo-Saxons of Germany mixed with the French Normans to give us modern day Britons.

Celts are the original Britons
Not quite. The Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and some other came to the Briton Isles. After the Romans left the Saxons set up kingdoms in the Angles land, eventually forming a unified England. Anglo-Saxon basically refers to the English (though they often are Celt-Saxon).
The Normans are from the Franks and invading vikings from Scandinavia.
Germans are from Saxons, Franks, Alemanni, Frisians, and a few others.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm curious (in a genuine way) where you're getting these threads from.
It actually does interest me, such variations in the human body, because even among two people who are ethnically identical there are debates on who has the advantage. Like having long limbs or short limbs for lifting.
And, in a lot of ways, in many things, size isn't always the advantage, or an advantage.
lee9.jpg
That's very true.


From what I understand, strength has to do more with electricity within the muscle, as opposed to sheer mass.

People like schoolboy...



Or Dennis Roger...

 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
From what I understand, strength has to do more with electricity within the muscle, as opposed to sheer mass.
I've not heard of electricity. I typically find it has to do with the amount of muscle mass more than anything else. Which I think would offer some advantages for longer limbs (thus more muscle for more muscle mass).
But it is interesting how it seems there is "fine tuning" in our genetics that makes us better at one thing or another.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I've not heard of electricity. I typically find it has to do with the amount of muscle mass more than anything else. Which I think would offer some advantages for longer limbs (thus more muscle for more muscle mass).
But it is interesting how it seems there is "fine tuning" in our genetics that makes us better at one thing or another.
That's why Schoolboy and Dennis Roger are so interesting.

Looking at them you would never guess in a million years they actually have the equivalent and even surpassed strength of massively muscled bodybuilders.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Well the thread about German strongmen was because I find it difficult to get ripped and German strongman tend to have beer bellies as opposed to bodybuilders who do it for aesthetic purposes.

I don't see why some people choose to specialise in one thing: I want to be multitalented.

This thread in particular is about African and Slavs being physically dominant despite being of different races.

In wrestling it tends to be USA, Russia and Iran that dominates.
In judo it's actually the Japanese, Koreans, French and Russians.

Funnily enough Russians tend to be stronger than most of the above but it's often the more skilled / well coached individuals as opposed to who's stronger (not necessarily bigger as they're in the same weight classes but I believe the Slavics are stronger for the same size).

Well, when it comes to sports/athletics and which countries dominate, a lot of that may also be cultural. Some kids grow up playing a sport from a very young age.

Each group also has its share of 98-pound weaklings. Every group seems to have a wide range, although if there's actual hard data on which groups are the strongest or biggest, I haven't seen it.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
That's why Schoolboy and Dennis Roger are so interesting.

Looking at them you would never guess in a million years they actually have the equivalent and even surpassed strength of massively muscled bodybuilders.

It's because body building is all about just that, sculpting the perfect body. Not a whole lot of actual strength endurance training involved. No fast twitch fibers. Just pure size.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's because body building is all about just that, sculpting the perfect body. Not a whole lot of actual strength endurance training involved. No fast twitch fibers. Just pure size.
Some of it is genetic though. Hip differences in the Pols, Bulgarians, Ukrainians and Western Russians have better hips for squats (dalmatiam hips/shallower hip sockets). The Irish and Scottish hips, no so much (celtic hips/deeper hip sockets).
Hip Anatomy and Squat Depth
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Some of it is genetic though. Hip differences in the Pols, Bulgarians, Ukrainians and Western Russians have better hips for squats (dalmatiam hips/shallower hip sockets). The Irish and Scottish hips, no so much (celtic hips/deeper hip sockets).
Hip Anatomy and Squat Depth

I just meant in relation to body builder strength vs just being strong. Body building is all about size/shape. Compare someone who does worlds strongman vs Mr Olympian or w/e that body building comp is, in size and strength. There are some genetic differences of course, but they are usually slight.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Both are unrelated to one another
What do you mean by that? We are all related, we all have genes in common.

Modern Africans are the descendants of ancient Africans. Modern Slavics are also the descendants of ancient Africans.

We are more like than unlike.
 
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