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Afro-Americans and Police. What causes the clash?

We Never Know

No Slack
So where's the media reports of black cops doing bad things to white folk? There's a lot of conservative media out there. So cite a few examples.
Or white cops doing bad to white folks.

Bad cops should make the news if they do wrong regurdless of the color of the person they do wrong to.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can't tell you how many times over the past month or two I've seen abominations like this report. Should the kid have had a bike license? Of course. Was the response totally disproportionate? Totally. Would this have happened to a white kid? I totally doubt it.

Video shows New Jersey police handcuffing a Black teen and seizing his bike over not having a bicycle license
You once posted an article about how a black kid was handcuffed
at school. You doubted it would ever happen to a white kid.
I gave you an article about it happening to a white kid.
Are you so sure that cops only over-react to black kids?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So where's the media reports of black cops doing bad things to white folk? There's a lot of conservative media out there. So cite a few examples.
Ever heard of Justine Damond?
Daniel Shaver?
Conservative news sources, even OAN, focus upon what's
incendiary, ie, black deaths at the hands of white cops.
Other news is less prominent.
BTW, Shaver's execution by a cop is the most outrageous
example I know of, regardless of race & gender.
Seen the video? It was a ritualized & intentional execution
of an unarmed guy who posed no threat at all.
Shooting of Daniel Shaver - Wikipedia
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
There are poor white people too, who don't have access to top-tier lawyers. I myself, middle class, couldn't hire a top-tier lawyer.

It is not an 'everything or nothing' situation though.
It is not like only top-tier lawyers make a difference.

The racism is there the statistics show it, but no doubt race plus poverty is a double whammy.

The question remains though: Are those statistics comparing people with similar economical status? If not, we can't ascertain to what extent it is a matter of poverty and to what extent it is a matter of racism.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The prime directive of policing in the US is maintenance of order, not law. The police are, and always have been, a bulwark between the privileged élites and the incursion of the underclass.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The prime directive of policing in the US is maintenance of order, not law. The police are, and always have been, a bulwark between the privileged élites and the incursion of the underclass.
As one of the "privileged", my personal experience with
cops isn't always that of a beneficiary. Most of the time
it's been otherwise. So I try to minimize my contact with'm.
Cops appear to have their own culture. This drives behavior.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
This thread is meant with good intentions. I hope it offend no one. The above title is an obvious problem. With that said.....

Afro-Americans male and female make up around 13% of the US population.

However according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in 2018 Black males accounted for 34% of the total male prison population, white males 29%, and Hispanic males 24%.

Now I agree cops are harder on blacks (male's expecially) but the evidence(prison population) shows black male's get in trouble, convicted and go to prison more than others races. Which means they have higher run ins with the police, (or are wrongfully accused and are wrongfully convicted more than other races).

To my point... Do the police view them as trouble makers and come down on them harder for that reason or do they come down on them harder simply because of their color.

Your thoughts?

Please keep it polite and no racist comments.

Edit... I think its a mix of both. Neither make it right.

There might be a good number of people who think whites behaving badly is the exception, but blacks behaving badly is the rule. But really, I don't know but am willing to do some research on it.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I have heard and seen evidence that indicates that conviction of economically disadvantaged white people is close to that of black people. Poverty may be a big part of the answer. If we can find a way to help everyone live a bitter life then that might go a long way towards solving this problem. Wage and employment disparity leads to unrest.
I would say encouraging and lifting people out of poverty goes a long way toward freeing them from criminality and issues with police. Sadly, too often leftists want to see people stay trapped, rather than set free.


“As so much despair has gripped our nation during this difficult time, I decided to go into our nation’s most distressed communities with a message of hope and truth.

I have been working on policy issues dealing with race and poverty through my organization, UrbanCURE, for 25 years.

We purchased billboard space in hard-hit cities across the nation and posted a short, time-tested message that strikes at the heart of what drives poverty.

The billboards show a picture of a young black man or young black woman and say: “Tired of Poverty? Finish school. Take any job. Get married. Save and invest. Give back to your neighborhood.”


“The impact of the “success sequence” on poverty is well documented.

Brookings Institution scholars Ron Haskins and Isabell Sawhill published their findings in their book, Creating an Opportunity Society, in which they report that those who follow three steps — finish high school, get a full-time job and get married before having children — face a 2 percent chance of being poor.”
BLM Suppresses the Truth About Poverty - CURE

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“The Democrat Party has exploited Black America for more than 60 years. Democrats have honed pandering to a fine art, as they have continued to promise this and pledge that, year after year — decade after decade. From the establishment of Lyndon B. Johnson’s War Poverty — now in excess of $33 trillion and counting — the statistics of Black urban America are bleak; as Dr. Williams duly noted.“

“The ugly little secret is this: the Democrat Party as we know it would cease to exist if urban Blacks were to heed the words of Walter Williams; avoid out-of-wedlock births, particularly among very young women; pursue an education as a steppingstone out of spiritual poverty; work to achieve a life better than the one they’ve known.”

Economist Walter E. Willams Tells It Like It Is for Black Americans: 'Today' Is Not 'Yesterday'
 
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