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After all this time, now what?

Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?

Ask the questions not yet asked...?
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?
Now you tell us how you live and about your personal commitment. Do you have a way of life that can make the world better?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?

Think outside the box.

I like to circle the circled wagons first.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?

I think its time for new questions.

I do know what you mean about the predictability of answers coming, and I admit I can be thread picky, only reading things that are new ideas that I'm not sure what the answers will be, or of the personal experiences of others, as those tend to be as varied as they come.

I think we're all(as human beings) so preoccupied with the answer, we forget the question is just as, if not more, important.
 
Ask the questions not yet asked...?
I have yet to ask questions here at RF but, the previous forums I used to be on, I asked all those questions and had all those conversations. I guess I am trying to avoid replaying history all over again. What I am trying to say, for example, you are an Atheist, If we were to talk about evolution, morality or God, while I do not know every single word you will say, I think I can say I know what the end result of that conversation would be and what stance you will take. Makes sense?
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?
Well if you have gotten to that point and been as involved in it as you say, what conclusion did you reach yourself about your own believes in a God? Think that would be very interesting to hear, given that you already know everyone's position and I assume you believe they are wrong? And if you as you say is almost always right, you must have some pretty good arguments for your own position I assume?

Think that could be a good and interesting topic.
 
I think its time for new questions.
Yes but, I have run out of questions lol. Need to starting thinking

I do know what you mean about the predictability of answers coming

I mean, for the most part, I know how a Christian or Muslim would answer about the trinity and death. For the most part, I know how an Atheist will answer on morality and God. And for the most part, I think I already know there are some Atheists reading this thinking how the only thing similar between Atheists is there lack of belief and nothing else.

of the personal experiences of others, as those tend to be as varied as they come.
Yes, this also highly interests me.

I think we're all(as human beings) so preoccupied with the answer, we forget the question is just as, if not more, important.
100% agree
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
There are a number of threads that I find repetitious and ignore. But there are some people who ask interesting questions that stimulate me to think and research. So at least sometimes it's not the expected answers but the personal reaction I have to the question or idea.

And I hang out a LOT on joke threads.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I have yet to ask questions here at RF but, the previous forums I used to be on, I asked all those questions and had all those conversations. I guess I am trying to avoid replaying history all over again. What I am trying to say, for example, you are an Atheist, If we were to talk about evolution, morality or God, while I do not know every single word you will say, I think I can say I know what the end result of that conversation would be and what stance you will take. Makes sense?
I have a question for you, then: You have written "There's something" in your profile box thingie. Is that by any chance a reference to Heidegger's "Why is there something rather than nothing?"? This is a quote that came up in the panegyric at my uncle's funeral some years ago and has stayed with me, for some reason.
 
what conclusion did you reach yourself about your own believes in a God?
While I do not wish to go in detail now, as I was planning to start my own thread on this, I would say my stance is that there is "something" and nothing is random.

Think that would be very interesting to hear, given that you already know everyone's position and I assume you believe they are wrong?
Wrong is too strong a term, I do not believe people that think differently from myself are wrong however, over the many conversations and "debates" I have had with certain people, I found they are not always consistent in their arguments and change the basis of their argument to suit whatever point they are making even if it contradicts previous points they were trying to make. When I have reached that stage, by that time I am mentally tired and just give up. Without honest and consistency, there is not fruitful conversation to be had

And if you as you say is almost always right, you must have some pretty good arguments for your own position I assume?
When I say I am "right" I meant about the response I am expecting, not right in everything I say
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?

I suppose I try to come up with a new angle on some of the old arguments.
Maybe find reason to question some of the old claims.

The idea with critical thinking is to come up with the question not yet asked.
If you can already assume the answer then the problem is with the question.
You might need to ask the question that no one else dares to ask.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?
Maybe you've sucked all the juice out of this piece of meat?
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Hello RF community,


I recently joined RF after being a very long time reader. When I created my account I had all these threads that I planned on starting but, now that I finally created the account I find myself too, not sure what word to use, bored? lazy? to post anything.

As I begin typing up my OP I already tell myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say” so I delete my post and walk away. I have been feeling the same when replying to other threads. As I begin typing my reply which will have a question to it, again I say to myself “I already know what the Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”.

Does anyone else go through this?

I used to be heavily (and I mean HEAVILY) involved in a different forum site which I used to post multiple times day, and every time I had that thought or “prediction” of what the “Atheist/Muslim/agnostic/Christian/Jew will say”, I was unfortunately almost always right. These “powers” lol (just kidding) have come from years of watching and listening to debates and podcast between theists, anti-theists, agnostics and atheists. Also from reading and studying and various religions, personal conversations and a heavy involvement of posts on the previous forums I used to be a part of. Even here at RF, most of the time, and I am sure I am not the only one, just by reading the title and a few sentences of the OP, I already know how each sect will reply. While I definitely appreciate the genuine and intellectual conversations with people, actually, as I type this sentence I am asking myself "do it still enjoy it?" I don't fully know the answer to the question anymore.

So, with all that said, I almost feel like I have grown “tired” of all this so my question is, now what?

But do you know what the Hindu, Buddhist or Pagan will say?

I find their answers don't always align with the standard Monotheist argument. And adds a new dimension to conversations.

Edit: My advice, ask anyways. Then tweak your questions and ask new ones, based on the answers given.
 
But do you know what the Hindu, Buddhist or Pagan will say?

I find their answers don't always align with the standard Monotheist argument. And adds a new dimension to conversations.

Edit: My advice, ask anyways. Then tweak your questions and ask new ones, based on the answers given.

No, I do not know Hindus, Buddhist and all pagans will say. However, from what I have studied when it comes to religions, and I say this will all due respect to all Hindus, Buddhist pagans, I honestly have no interest in learning more than what I already have about them as those religions do not make any logical nor rational sense to me. While I do agree they add a new dimension to conversations, it's not a dimension I find interesting.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
No, I do not know Hindus, Buddhist and all pagans will say. However, from what I have studied when it comes to religions, and I say this will all due respect to all Hindus, Buddhist pagans, I honestly have no interest in learning more than what I already have about them as those religions do not make any logical nor rational sense to me. While I do agree they add a new dimension to conversations, it's not a dimension I find interesting.

Good to know. :confused: Guess I'll see my way outta this thread...
 
Good to know. :confused: Guess I'll see my way outta this thread...
Just to clarify, I did not mean it as Hindus as people but, Hindu as the religion. I know it can often be confusing as Indians or Hindu people often get confused with the religious Hindus. I actually have an Indian friend (Hindu) that is a Muslim :D
 
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