I am new to this forum and it has been a while since I engaged in religious discussions. I have found a renewed interest in exploring the foundation of my agnosticism and invite any critiques of agnosticism or ideas on areas to explore. I may not present as your typical agnostic as I consider myself a pure agnostic with a central stance on a lack of knowledge of both theistic and atheistic principles. That said, I tend to find more in common with atheists in general but am intrigued by the ontological and consciousness arguments for a creator/god.
I am new to this forum and it has been a while since I engaged in religious discussions. I have found a renewed interest in exploring the foundation of my agnosticism and invite any critiques of agnosticism or ideas on areas to explore. I may not present as your typical agnostic as I consider myself a pure agnostic with a central stance on a lack of knowledge of both theistic and atheistic principles. That said, I tend to find more in common with atheists in general but am intrigued by the ontological and consciousness arguments for a creator/god.
I doubt you will get any real discussion about the old ontological arguments. Things have changed a lot. I don't think people make the same argument these days. There was a time when people thought that we needed to support the crown, too, and that without the crown society would collapse into chaos. Possibly they also thought they had to defend God in order to defend the crown, too. I don't know about that for certain, but it seems consistent with human behavior. These days arguments for God are a lot less politically relevant as western society sees God above the state rather than above the monarch. It is a less directly influencing God and more of a God of principles. It actually works better for agnostics than before, and ontological arguments appear to be very rare.