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Agree or Disagree: voting age should be 25+

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well...considering the age of the Trump's shooter...
Unless someone here wants to reassure me saying that he was hired by some banking élite...so age doesn't really matter...
 

simplify3

Member
I've always been a bit radical on this one. At least for local elections, they should simply be open to anybody who can express an opinion.

In communities, there's services that Target young people such as skate parks, or being stopped by police for their bicycle tags or something

And I should think that they should have elections at least locally for any age.

If you can go to school in kindergarten by yourself and have to be responsible for some criminal actions at age 5 and up, you should be able to have a say in your community that counts.
 

Arnaud1221

Red-hood
At the age of 18, it will promote to the young to be active and involve. Anyway, it's at 50 that you are mature at politics.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Rather than basing it on age I think voting should require a voters license, with a test geared towards determining how in touch with reality a person is.
The first test could be having a passing grade in civics. If you understand how voting works, you are informed enough to vote. And since people have bad memories, the test should be repeated every (4? 8? 10?) years.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
The first test could be having a passing grade in civics. If you understand how voting works, you are informed enough to vote. And since people have bad memories, the test should be repeated every (4? 8? 10?) years.

Who are the 80 million Americans who don’t vote though? I would think they would be the ones who don’t understand or don’t care.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Who are the 80 million Americans who don’t vote though? I would think they would be the ones who don’t understand or don’t care.
"If elections could change anything, they'd be illegal" is a somewhat cynical but not completely false notion. Some of the 80 millions may think so. But given that sometimes elections can change the system (to the worse), some of them may turn up in November to prevent that change.
 

simplify3

Member
I would extend the vote to the incarcerated as well. I believe in the idea of voting as an absolute right because you should have representation of the people that are in control of your lives, especially those with Direct Control
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
"If elections could change anything, they'd be illegal" is a somewhat cynical but not completely false notion. Some of the 80 millions may think so. But given that sometimes elections can change the system (to the worse), some of them may turn up in November to prevent that change.

Example of a significant change?

The states seem to be more involved in people’s lives than the federals, and SCOTUS even more so.
 

Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
Meh, we aren't talking about weed or alcohol. 18 is fine

If it makes you feel better, people of that age range don't tend to vote anyways; at least that was up until gen Z from what I hear
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I would extend the vote to the incarcerated as well. I believe in the idea of voting as an absolute right because you should have representation of the people that are in control of your lives, especially those with Direct Control
I'd give incarcerated people a vote too :)
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Example of a significant change?

The states seem to be more involved in people’s lives than the federals, and SCOTUS even more so.
In 1933 Germans (accidentally, because most didn't see it coming) to change the system from a democratic republic to a dictatorship.
The US may face a similar decision, but you don't have the excuse that it never happened before, and you couldn't see it coming.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
In 1933 Germans (accidentally, because most didn't see it coming) to change the system from a democratic republic to a dictatorship.
The US may face a similar decision.

A few years of the Trumptator won’t be that bad unless he is secretly an immortal alien.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I'm not talking about one country but every country. It seems like a higher voting age would benefit republics. People who are young don't have a lot of experience and often have never worked or run businesses. My argument is that the young are not very responsible. Currently the voting age is I think too low. Most countries set it at 18.

Here's a link showing the current legal voting age in most countries:
Disagree, if you are old enough to serve your country and required to register for the draft you are old enough to have a say in who runs it. If you want to change the voting age it needs to go along with military requirements.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
If you want to create new voting criteria why not set education and comprehension levels as the gold standard.
Age seems to be the least meaningful.
Social responsibility would also be a useful standard. With criminal, and convictions for antisocial acts like breaking employment laws and bankruptcy and unfair trade practices, or using social media to spread false information, all restricting your right to vote.either permanently or for a period of time.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
At the age of 18, it will promote to the young to be active and involve. Anyway, it's at 50 that you are mature at politics.
In the UK there are many teenaged active political workers, who understand political issues sufficiently well to discuss them on the door step. And can be full members of a political party, though may be too young to vote. Age is almost irrelevant, comprehension is what matters.
I have met many people of all ages on the door step, with the political comprehension of a puddle of mud, and who have the vote.
 
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