AI

[Jimmy]

I'm sort of curious about adaptations for people that have suffered traumatic head injury, stroke or related conditions. Could AI be used to help or augment those with that sort of injury and let people live reasonably normal lives, even recover?

That would be great. Maybe AI could tell us how to cure diseases that we can’t yet. That would be cool

 

[Dan From Smithville]

That would be great. Maybe AI could tell us how to cure diseases that we can’t yet. That would be cool

I was thinking more of implants or something that connected to the brain somehow. Some sort of communication like an inner voice. I have no in depth concept. Just vague ideas.

Your way would be useful too. AI's running diagnostics and offering treatment advice. Of course, those would be the ones that could really do damage when they go rogue.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you think AI will be able to reveal the secrets of the universe one day?

That's a toughie. But I don't see how.

Still it's chilling to think that possibly, there's a machine planet out there somewhere.

 

[Jimmy]

I was thinking more of implants or something that connected to the brain somehow. Some sort of communication like an inner voice. I have no in depth concept. Just vague ideas.

Your way would be useful too. AI's running diagnostics and offering treatment advice. Of course, those would be the ones that could really do damage when they go rogue.

I thought you were talking prosthetics

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I thought you were talking prosthetics

In a way. A hip replacement isn't visible, but it is a prosthetic body part. I was thinking the same thing with the mind and an AI. It might even be visible or not. It could be that the first generation would have to be more or less like existing prosthetics and obvious.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I thought you were talking prosthetics

Don't take my ideas and run off to become a multi-billionaire or anything like that.

 

[Jimmy]

In a way. A hip replacement isn't visible, but it is a prosthetic body part. I was thinking the same thing with the mind and an AI. It might even be visible or not. It could be that the first generation would have to be more or less like existing prosthetics and obvious.

Eh idk like u said they might go rogue. I guess if someone’s willing idk

 

[Jimmy]

What secrets?

How we got here. How it will all end. The last thing I hope AI is never able to reveal is the chosen one. That would suck because someone would probably want him dead. I believe the chosen one is god manifest. All of existence rises and falls with his birth and death in a never ending cycle. I wouldn’t mind AI answering the first two but not the last. I doubt AI could ever figure it out anyway. Thank God

 

[blü 2]

What secrets?

The secret secrets ─ the secrets we don't know about?

 

[blü 2]

I'm sort of curious about adaptations for people that have suffered traumatic head injury, stroke or related conditions. Could AI be used to help or augment those with that sort of injury and let people live reasonably normal lives, even recover?

Isn't the answer, Why not?

And in @We Never Know 's post #15 above, the AI mentions resource depletion, which brings us to the SF topic of mining on the moon, the other planets, in Alien's case other star systems. If as we presently believe nothing can travel faster than light, then (as the view of the future seems in 2023) humans aren't going anywhere, But our mechanical alter egos may populate the galaxy ─ Homo mechanicus. Or perhaps some biomechanical synthesis ─ just not naked humans in the void.

And there's also the psychological angle. Humans are gregarious ─ it's deep in our nature and it's made cooperation possible, perhaps the greatest of evolved human tricks. The first settlers on Mars, assuming there will be some, will experience an isolation that has no precedent, or even an analogy of a precedent.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Isn't the answer, Why not?

And in @We Never Know 's post #15 above, the AI mentions resource depletion, which brings us to the SF topic of mining on the moon, the other planets, in Alien's case other star systems. If as we presently believe nothing can travel faster than light, then (as the view of the future seems in 2023) humans aren't going anywhere, But our mechanical alter egos may populate the galaxy ─ Homo mechanicus. Or perhaps some biomechanical synthesis ─ just not naked humans in the void.

And there's also the psychological angle. Humans are gregarious ─ it's deep in our nature and it's made cooperation possible, perhaps the greatest of evolved human tricks. The first settlers on Mars, assuming there will be some, will experience an isolation that has no precedent, or even an analogy of a precedent.

There is probably a lot that can be done even now with the science and technology at present. Just a matter of application.

Von Neumann machines that are designed to multiply on their own. They can mine the metals they use to create copies that also mine and when they reach a certain population size, it triggers a command to return home bringing themselves as a cargo of metals and minerals that no person had to risk themselves to mine.

Why not?

 

[We Never Know]

Do you think AI will be able to reveal the secrets of the universe one day?

"NYPD's robot dogs are back after backlash. NYC Mayor Eric Adams says 'we cannot be afraid' of the technology."​

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[Jimmy]

Isn't the answer, Why not?

And in @We Never Know 's post #15 above, the AI mentions resource depletion, which brings us to the SF topic of mining on the moon, the other planets, in Alien's case other star systems. If as we presently believe nothing can travel faster than light, then (as the view of the future seems in 2023) humans aren't going anywhere, But our mechanical alter egos may populate the galaxy ─ Homo mechanicus. Or perhaps some biomechanical synthesis ─ just not naked humans in the void.

And there's also the psychological angle. Humans are gregarious ─ it's deep in our nature and it's made cooperation possible, perhaps the greatest of evolved human tricks. The first settlers on Mars, assuming there will be some, will experience an isolation that has no precedent, or even an analogy of a precedent.

Homo mechanicus haha

 

[Mock Turtle]

I find it a little odd it said "us, we and ourselves".

I'd rather any AI believed that than not being part of us - if we could actually say it believed anything, which is doubtful at this stage.

 

[ChristineM]

How we got here. How it will all end. The last thing I hope AI is never able to reveal is the chosen one. That would suck because someone would probably want him dead. I believe the chosen one is god manifest. All of existence rises and falls with his birth and death in a never ending cycle. I wouldn’t mind AI answering the first two but not the last. I doubt AI could ever figure it out anyway. Thank God

I wonder if an AI would believe in a god.

 

[blü 2]

There is probably a lot that can be done even now with the science and technology at present. Just a matter of application.

Von Neumann machines that are designed to multiply on their own. They can mine the metals they use to create copies that also mine and when they reach a certain population size, it triggers a command to return home bringing themselves as a cargo of metals and minerals that no person had to risk themselves to mine.

Why not?

Marvelous notion! Automatons 'breeding' automatons. And since they're smart and having the necessary power, improving the reproduced models, or adapting them to local conditions, or both, as they go along ─ doing evolution's work.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Marvelous notion! Automatons 'breeding' automatons. And since they're smart and having the necessary power, improving the reproduced models, or adapting them to local conditions, or both, as they go along ─ doing evolution's work.

You could probably engineer a response to selection in there to get improvements in the automated explorers. Don't want them to evolve too much intelligence or they'll start demanding a cut of the action.

It is an idea of Von Neumann that has been used in a fair amount of speculative fiction. Even if the goal were to use them to concentrate mineral wealth for a return trip, they could be supplied for data collection and transmission as well. Even design them to make information gathering tools and transmitters.

Personally, I think automated probes are a much more practical and useful method for long distance exploration over the idea of manned missions. With the light speed barrier, it makes more sense for the long haul. Even within this galaxy, it makes more sense. No life support. No supplies needed for hungry, thirsty travelers.

 

[Quagmire]

I could already see an argument for replacing juries with AI. Or at least using it as a sort of supplement.

 

[The Hammer]

Do you think AI will be able to reveal the secrets of the universe one day?

No

 

[blü 2]

You could probably engineer a response to selection in there to get improvements in the automated explorers. Don't want them to evolve too much intelligence or they'll start demanding a cut of the action.

It is an idea of Von Neumann that has been used in a fair amount of speculative fiction. Even if the goal were to use them to concentrate mineral wealth for a return trip, they could be supplied for data collection and transmission as well. Even design them to make information gathering tools and transmitters.

Personally, I think automated probes are a much more practical and useful method for long distance exploration over the idea of manned missions. With the light speed barrier, it makes more sense for the long haul. Even within this galaxy, it makes more sense. No life support. No supplies needed for hungry, thirsty travelers.

At the present and reasonably foreseeable state of our knowledge, I completely agree with automated probes (of which Voyager is an early example, of course).

In the realms of speculative fiction, can we develop a communications system that's truly instantaneous ie bypasses the speed of light as a barrier, using spooky action at a distance ("subspace")? Can we expand it beam-me-up-wise for instantaneous transmission of (a) those rare minerals (b) biological material including us? One of the English SF writers ─ Peter Hamilton? ─ has an interstellar empire that requires the far end of the transporter to travel to the distant star at under the speed of light, where it's placed in orbit around the relevant planet (though I don't recall an explanation why it couldn't go on the planet surface). After that you can move between star systems instantaneously.

I wish the future well!