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Ain't Nobody's Business: The Absurdity of Concensual "Crimes" in a Free Society

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
Ain't Nobody's Business: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in a Free Society

By Peter McWilliams

(Adapted from the book "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do," by Peter McWilliams.)

It is the best of times for the worst of crimes. And consensual crimes are the worst of crimes, not for the usual reasons, but because they have no business being crimes. Simply put, you should be allowed to do whatever you want with your own person and property, so long as you don't physically harm the person or the property of another. Today's laws make many of those basic consensual acts illegal. Here are a few examples:

* In Michigan alone, more than 135 people are currently serving life sentences without possibility of parole for the mere possession of illegal drugs.

* In nine states, unmarried sex between consenting heterosexual adults is illegal.

* Oral sex (giving and receiving) is illegal in 20 states for heterosexuals and 27 states for homosexuals.

* The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, contrary to centuries of tradition, members of the Native American Church may not legally use peyote in their religious ceremonies.

* In 1992 a woman was stopped when entering the country with RU 486 abortion pills that she intended to use to terminate her pregnancy, and the pills were confiscated.

The laws prevailing in these cases and many others like them would appear to run counter to the freedoms intended and guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson explained in his first inaugural address in 1801: "A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement." How far have we strayed from this ideal?

Far.

Roughly half the arrests and court cases in the U.S. each year involve consensual crimes. More than 350,000 people are in jail right now because of something they did -- something that did not physically harm another's person or property. In addition, more than 1.5 million people are on parole or probation for consensual crimes. And more than 4 million people are arrested each year for doing something that hurts no one except, potentially, themselves.

The injustice does not end there, of course. Throwing people in jail is the extreme. Imagine how easily they could be fired, evicted, expelled, denied credit, have their property confiscated, their civil rights stripped away and their lives destroyed.

Yes, if we harm ourselves, it may harm others emotionally. That's unfortunate, but not grounds for putting us in jail. If that were the case, every time person A stopped dating person B in order to date person C, persona A would run the risk of going to jail for hurting person B. If person C were hurt by person A's being put in jail, person B could be put in jail for causing person C to be hurt. This would, of course, hurt person B's mother, who would see to it that person C would go to jail. Eventually, we'd all end up in jail. As silly as this sounds, it is precisely the logic used by some to protect the idea of consensual crimes.

No one should be able to put us in jail, no matter what we do to ourselves or our property -- even physically harming them. Consensual crimes are not without risk, but nothing in life is without risk. The sad or happy fact -- depending on how you feel about life -- is that we're all going to die. We don't like to face that reality; it's one of our fundamental cultural taboos. We like to think that if we can only keep ourselves and our loved ones safe, none of us will ever die. Obviously, it doesn't work that way. Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.

Sometimes we land on the sunny side of the risk and get the reward. Sometimes we land on the dark side and get the consequences. Either way, as responsible adults, we accept the results (sometimes kicking and screaming, but we accept them nonetheless). The self-appointed moralists of our society have decided, however, that some activities are just too risky, and that the people who consent to take part in them should be put in jail -- for their own good and for the good of all. Such paternalism creates consensual crimes.

Consensual crimes are sometimes referred to as victimless crimes. But the label "victimless crime" has been so misused in the past few years that it has become almost meaningless. Every scoundrel committing a real crime has declared it a victimless crime, attempting to argue that a crime without physical violence is also a crime without a victim. Anyone who has been threatened, black-mailed, or robbed at the point of a fountain pen instead of a gun knows that's not true. Another group claiming protection under the victimless-crime umbrella includes those, such as drunk drivers, who recklessly endanger innocent (nonconsenting) others. Because they didn't actually hit someone, they argue, it was OK that they were going 70 mph the wrong way on a one-way street. Meanwhile, every intolerance-monger attacking a consensual crime maintains that the crime did have a victim. ("We're all victims" is a favorite phrase.) Besides, it's hard to find any activity in life that does not, potentially, have a victim.

People who live in Florida may become victims of hurricanes, drivers of cars may become victims of traffic accidents. Each time we fall in love we may become the victim of another's indifference. Does this mean that we should outlaw Florida, automobiles and falling in love? Of course not. It's not our role as victims that puts such activities outside the realms of criminal-law enforcement, but the fact that we, as adults, knowing the risks, consent to take part in those activities.

Consent is one of the most precious rights we have. It is central to self-determination. It allows us to enter into agreements and contracts. It gives us the ability to choose. "Without the possibility of choice and the exercise of choice," the poet Archibald MacLeish wrote, "a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a thing." Being an adult, in fact, can be defined as having reached the age of consent. It is upon reaching the age of consent that we become responsible for our choices, actions and behaviors. (Nothing in this article, by the way, refers to children. It discusses only activities between or performed by consenting adults.)

The laws against consensual crimes take away the right we all have to be different. Even if you don't want to take part in any of the illegal consensual acts, a culture that puts people in jail for them is also a culture that will disapprove -- forcefully, clearly and oppressively -- of something different you _may_ want to do.

If we let anyone lose his or her freedom without just cause, we all have lost our freedom. The bell, as the poet said, tolls for thee.

With this thought in mind, here are the most popular consensual crimes: gambling, recreational drug use, religious drug use, prostitution, pornography, obscenity, homosexuality, adultery, bigamy, polygamy, regenerative drug use and other unorthodox medical practices ("Quacks!"), unconventional religious practices ("Cults!"), unpopular political views ("Commies!"), transvestism, not using safety devices (motorcycle helmets and seat belts, for example), public drunkenness, jaywalking, loitering, vagrancy (so long as it doesn't become trespassing or disturbing the peace) and ticket scalping.



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Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
Even if you don't want to take part in a consensual crime, defending the right of others to do so has a trickle-down effect of tolerance, acceptance and freedom for the things you _do_ want to do. (This may be one trickle-down theory that works.) "My definition of a free society," said Adlai E. Stevenson, "is a society where it is safe to be unpopular."

Here are the primary reasons consensual activities should not be illegal. In my view, any one reason is sufficient to remove all laws against consensual crimes from the books.

* It's un-American. America is based on personal freedom and the strength of diversity, not on unnecessary limitation and slavish conformity. We are, after all, "endowed by [our] Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Thus, we are well-endowed. Let's use our endowment.

* It's unconstitutional. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights clearly give us the right to pursue our lives without the forced intervention of self-appointed moralists, do-gooders and busy-bodies. Those who claim that the Constitution is "a Christian document" are about as wrong as they could be. (Which, considering how wrong these people can be, is pretty wrong.) The founding fathers -- George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams -- were not even Christians; they were Deists. They believed there is a God, but did not believe the "revealed word" or any religion. The founding fathers read the words of Jesus with respect, but they also turned for inspiration to the works of Confucius, Zoroaster, Socrates and many others. That almost everyone believes the founding fathers were all "God-fearing Christians" is a perfect example of telling a big enough lie often enough that is becomes "truth." George Washington summed it up succinctly: "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

* It violates the separation of church and state. The Constitution not only guarantees that we can freely practice the religion of our choice but also that the government will not impose religion upon us. Almost all arguments in favor of maintaining laws against consensual crimes have a religious foundation. The biblical sexual prohibitions are oft quoted. The restrictions against drugs come from the evangelical revivalism of the 1820s and 1830 that directly gave us, among other delights, Prohibition. Even the idea that we should take care of our bodies -- _or else_ -- is the old body-is-the temple-of-the-soul argument espoused by Saint Paul.

* It's against the American Principles of private property, free enterprise, capitalism and the open market. If everything thus far has sounded hopelessly liberal, here's a nice conservative argument: Our economic system is based on private property. What you own is your own business. You can give it away, trade it or sell it -- none of which is the government's business. Whether you make or lose money on the transaction is not the government's business (until it's time to collect taxes). This is the system known as capitalism. We fought (and recently won) a 45-year cold-and-hot war against communism to maintain it. For the government to say that certina things cannot be owned, bought, given away, traded or sold is a direct violation of both the sanctity of private property and of the fundamental principles of capitalism.

* It's expensive. We're spending more than $50 billion per year catching and jailing consensual criminals. In addition, I estimate that we're losing at least an addition $150 billion in tax revenues: Every man, woman and child in this country is paying $800 per year to destroy the lives of 6 million fellow citizens involved in the tangled web of consensual acts, crime and punishment. And moving the underground economy that is associated with consensual crimes above ground would create 6 million tax-paying jobs.

* It destroys lives. A single arrest and conviction, even without a jail sentence, can wipe one out financially and permanently affect one's ability to get a job, housing, credit, education and insurance. IN addition, there is the emotional, mental and physical trauma of arrest, trial and conviction. If jail time is added to this societally mandated torture, and individual's life may be ruined.


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Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
* It corrupts law enforcement. Our law enforcement system is based on a perpetrator and a victim. In consensual crimes, perpetrator and victim are the same. Asking the police to control a crime that does not have a clear-cut victim makes a travesty of law enforcement. Who are the police supposed to protect? Theoretically, they arrest the perpetrator to protect the victim. However, in a consensual crime, when the perpetrator goes to jail, the victim goes, too. Law enforcement implemented against consensual crime is a sham that demoralizes police and promotes disrespect for the law. Because of the artificially inflated cost of consensual crimes, people resort to real crimes such as robbery and mugging. Thus we all become innocent victims.

* It promotes organized crime. Organized crime grew directly out of an earlier unsuccessful attempt to legislate against a consensual act -- Prohibition. Any time that something is desired daily by millions of people, there will be an organization to meet that desire. If fulfilling that desire is a crime, that organization will be organized crime. Organized criminals seldom differentiate between crimes with victims and crimes without victims. Furthermore, the enormous amount of money at their disposal allows them to corrupt the best police, prosecutors, witnesses, judges, juries and politicians money can buy. Once consensual crimes are no longer crimes, organized crime will be out of business. (The other major financier of campaigns against consensual crime is the religious right. Its leaders find it easier to raise money with fear and hatred than with love. Organized crime and the religious right. Strange bedfellows?)

* It corrupts the freedom of the press. Reporting on consensual crimes has turned a good portion of the media into gossips, busybodies= and tattletales. With so much important investigation and reporting to be done concerning issues directly affection the lives of individuals, the nation and the world, should we really be asking one of our most powerful allies -- the free press -- to report who's doing what, when, where, how and how often to their own (or their partners') bodies?

* It keeps people from being responsible for their own behavior. If we maintain that it is the government's jobs to keep illegal anything that might do us harm, it implies that anything not illegal is harmless. Clearly, this is not the case. Either people must be taught that what is legal is not necessarily harmless, or our prohibitions must extend at least to automobiles, cigarettes and alcohol. The current hypocrisy practiced in our society is unjust, misleading and deadly.

* Finally, we have more important things to worry about. The short list of problems facing our country and our world that are more deserving of our precious resources includes: real crimes (the chances are one in four that you or someone in your household will be "touched" by a violent crime this year), drunk drivers (22,000 deaths per year), insurance fraud ( a $100 billion per year problem that adds from 10 percent to 30 percent to all insurance premiums), illiteracy (one in seven American adults if functionally illiterate and one in 20 cannot fill out a job application), poverty (14.2 percent of the population -- 35.7 million people -- lives below the poverty level and a good number of these are children), prescription and over the counter drug abuse (more people are addicted to these than to all the currently illegal drugs combined), pollution AIDS and last but certainly not least, the national debt ($4 trillion and growing faster than anything else other than religious intolerance).

Consensual crimes create a society of fear, hatred, bigotry, oppression and conformity. They support a culture opposed to personal expression, diversity, freedom, choice and growth. The prosecution of consensual crimes encourages ostracizing, humiliating and scorning people. This creates a nation of sheep. "It has been my experience," wrote Abraham Lincoln, "that folks who have no vices have very few virtues."

If you look into the arguments in favor of laws against any consensual crime, they are usually variations of "it's not moral." And where does the objector's sense of morality come from? His or her religion. Some claim community values as the basis of morality, but where does this set of community values come from? The sharing of a similar religion. To a large degree, we have created a legal system that is to quote priest-turned-philosopher Alan Watts, "clergymen with billy clubs." As Watts wrote in Playboy more than 20 years ago:

"As is well known, the enormous political power of fundamentalists is what makes legislators afraid to take laws against victimless 'sins' and crimes off the books, and what corrupts police by forcing them to be armed preachers enforcing ecclesiastical laws in a country where church and state are supposed to be separate."

Don't think I'm against religion. I'm not. Individual morality based on religious or spiritual beliefs is wonderful. It can be an excellent guide for living one's own life. It is, however, a terrible foundation for deciding who does and does not go to jail. All it really does is allow a state-sanctified religion to pillory citizens for their choice of lifestyle.

"The function of government is to protect me from others," wrote the columnist Arthur Hoppe. "It's up to me, thank you, to protect me from me."

Responsibility is the price of freedom. So is tolerance. We may not like what others do with their persons and properties, but so long as they are not harming our persons and property, we must permit them to do as they please. In this way, we guarantee ourselves the freedom to do as _we_ please, even though others may not like it. The price of freedom is eternal -- and internal -- vigilance: In the time it took you to read this article, 342 people were arrested for consensual crimes in the U.S.

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The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
* Oral sex (giving and receiving) is illegal in 20 states for heterosexuals and 27 states for homosexuals.
Makes you wonder on what grounds the 7 states justify it for heterosexuals and not for homosexuals.

Probably some passage that can be bastardized into a homophobic stance.

TVOR
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
Druidus said:
* In 1992 a woman was stopped when entering the country with RU 486 abortion pills that she intended to use to terminate her pregnancy, and the pills were confiscated.
I bet that baby is glad it was not part of this "concensual" non-crime.;)
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
TranceAm said:
It's a small humanoid, usually the offspring from a mother and father of the human species.... precious from conception until natural death.

Was that your question?
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
You know Scott... I agree with you that abortion is anything but consensual. I think it is too often used as a form of birth control.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why is polygyny or polyandry illegal, or gay marriage, or group marriage for that matter? Why is society so concerned with how people choose to organize their relationships to other people?
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
TranceAm said:
So 9 weeks.. 9 x 7 = 63 days. Isn't it called an Embryo at that time...
What's your point? I don't care if you call it a tuna fish sandwich at 63 days..... guess what it'll be in 7 months or so?..... a baby...... and I hope that baby grows up and becomes a member here at RF and you can lecture him/her about the maximum allowable number of days that you would have allowed his/her murder.

Scott
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
TranceAm said:
Good point.. And let me assure you that I am perfectly aware that you are a MOD.
My being a MOD is not relevant..... unless you see *** MOD POST *** i'm just a member like you.
What happens when the embryo's father is the embryo's mothers brother or father?
The topic of this thread is The Absurdity of Concensual "Crimes" .... so unless you can ask me a question that relates to the embryo giving consent to being aborted, your questions are not relevant.

If you would like to start another thread with your questions, feel free to do so.;)

Scott
 

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
I don't hink a baby has the capability to give consent to much of anything for several years after being born, let alone in embryonic stage. I do, however, not agree that abortion should be a free-for-all. If you want an abortion, it should be taken in early first-term, and only in certain conditions, such as rape, danger to the mother, if you are a minor, and/or if the baby is inbred with immediate family. It should not be considered "the other contraceptive", nor should a women be able to say, later on in pregnancy, oh, wait, I don't want this baby anymore, I should get an abortion. In such a case, the baby should be put up for adoption.
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
Just a reminder.... this thread is not about abortion, it's about The Absurdity of Concensual "Crimes".

Scott
 

cdub219

New Member
most of those laws you posted are not inforced and are over 50 years old you gotta think about the generation who created those laws they fall in the catagory that is was legall to kill a mormon only a few years ago, i can understand a few of those examples, i think using
those laws is trying to throw a false perception out there of people now who dont agree with abortion.
 

Mercy Not Sacrifice

Well-Known Member
cdub219 said:
most of those laws you posted are not inforced and are over 50 years old you gotta think about the generation who created those laws they fall in the catagory that is was legall to kill a mormon only a few years ago, i can understand a few of those examples, i think using
those laws is trying to throw a false perception out there of people now who dont agree with abortion.
1. Welcome to RF. :)

2. You got a source for that?
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
A consensual or victimless crime is a crime where all of those involved in the act give consent, and no third parties suffer as a direct result.

Governments may justify making these acts into crimes because of indirect effects on third parties, or because of offense to cultural norms, or because the law assumes that one of the parties to the action is a "victim" despite his or her informed consent.

Consensual crimes are often described as crimes in which the victim is the state, the juridical system, or society at large. These crimes are therefore forbidden behaviours that do not imply damage to third persons, but only affect general (sometimes ideological or cultural) interests of the system, such as common sexual morality.



Oh , to be a lawyer . :) Apparently consent of those involed may have nothing to do if a consensual crime ? As long as you have consent of the government . ;)
 

cdub219

New Member
look up each state you want through the .gov pages (example utah.gov) go to goverment pages and you find state laws and you can search the state constitution or codes where you will find the facts about each law
 
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