Alarming Report: 1,400 Kids Sexually Exploited In UK Town

[Poeticus]

1,400 kids sexually exploited in UK town: report - Hindustan Times

... in Marylander Speak, us Marylanders call this: barbaric savagery.

 

[Phil25]

1,400 kids sexually exploited in UK town: report - Hindustan Times

... in Marylander Speak, us Marylanders call this: barbaric savagery.

Sad, but did you feel offended when they said that "majority of perperators were Asian(in UK, Asians refer to South Asians and not East Asians as in US) as the authorities had feared? I remember reading somewhere where you said you were an Indian.

 

[MD]

It's sad, but this is the future of liberalism. It just goes to show how weak of an ideology it is. It's interesting to note that not a single feminist or liberal has posted in this thread, when such a tragedy has occurred. Where is their outcry? Why are there protests? Seems to me this should be a HUGE deal to them, but they're obviously ignoring it.

The men were also Pakistani and not 'Asian' as that implies Indians and Bangladeshis as well. They all got light sentences, one man got only 17 years in prison for murdering a girl. This the future of Europe and quite frankly is what will further its collapse.

http://news.yahoo.com/rotherham-police-commissioner-vows-stay-abuse-scandal-114853127.html

local officials had described "nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought of as racist".

 

[dawny0826]

1,400 kids sexually exploited in UK town: report - Hindustan Times

... in Marylander Speak, us Marylanders call this: barbaric savagery.

Horrible. Reading this kind of stuff fills me with rage. Babies being tortured. That's what this is. Wouldn't bat a lash if someone saw it fit to douse these barbarians in kerosene and light a match. I hear kerosene burns slower than gas.

 

[Poeticus]

It's sad, but this is the future of liberalism. It just goes to show how weak of an ideology it is. It's interesting to note that not a single feminist or liberal has posted in this thread, when such a tragedy has occurred. Where is their outcry?

Fear of being branded as racists, anti-Pakistani, anti-Muslim---the usual, perhaps.

The men were also Pakistani and not 'Asian' as that implies Indians and Bangladeshis as well.

Did you notice how the pseudo-Indo-secular wording of that article downplayed the role of the perpetrators ? Anyone familiar with "Love-Jihad" (or in the UK, "Rape-Jihad") knows exactly what is going on in the UK. But to even fathom the mere act of mentioning that a majority of these perpetrators are of Pakistani origin is, to them, a crime against the universe---something so abominable and unforgivable.

BBC even made a documentary on what many Sikh females go through in certain parts of the UK highlighting this horrid reality:

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[MD]

I'm not sure why these liberals want to taint all of the perpetrators as South Asians, when in fact it was only Pakistanis who were perpetrating these acts. Something to think about. And the people who were responsible for letting this all happen are going scot free.

First England had the growing Islamist movements in their schools, then thousands of their youth go off to join ISIS and now this. Is this what Europe has become?

 

[dawny0826]

I'm not sure why these liberals want to taint all of those who are of South Asian as bad, when in fact it was only Pakistanis who were perpetrating these acts. Something to think about.

I don't understand why race/ethncity is relevant at all.

I read the article twice and what registered/resonated with me was the fact that some barbaic, worthless people abused young girls in such a way. They could have purple unicorns from Mars and my contempt would be no different.

I read men abusing children.

 

[MD]

I don't understand why race/ethncity is relevant at all.

I read the article twice and what registered/resonated with me was the fact that some barbaic, worthless people abused young girls in such a way. They could have purple unicorns from Mars and my contempt would be no different.

I read men abusing children.

It's not race, but ethnicity. And it's been happening for many years now, Pakistani gangs have been targeting Sikh and Hindu girls in the same manner since the 80s. Also no action was taken against these men because the police and town council were worried they would be seen as 'racist' and 'un-PC'. This is directly quoted in their reports. Also by lumping in all south Asians into one group instead of the specific ethnic based gang, the problem is again being diverted onto some general 'immigrants are poor mindset' instead of focusing on why Pakistanis are the main perpetrators of such acts.

So it's relevant.

 

[dawny0826]

It's not race, but ethnicity. And it's been happening for many years now, Pakistani gangs have been targeting Sikh and Hindu girls in the same manner since the 80s. Also no action was taken against these men because the police and town council were worried they would be seen as 'racist' and 'un-PC'. This is directly quoted in their reports. Also by lumping in all south Asians into one group instead of the specific ethnic based gang, the problem is again being diverted.

So it's relevant.

Got it.

 

[MD]

I think what's even more upsetting are the light sentences the perpetrators of these acts got, the longest term one of the perpetrators got for killing a child was 17 years. It also says a lot about the UK in general, and how they are too weak and unwilling to protect their own children.

If this were to happen in North America there would be a huge public outcry which would result in these guys either getting life in prison, the death penalty, or vigilante groups would take them out.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I don't understand why race/ethncity is relevant at all.

I read the article twice and what registered/resonated with me was the fact that some barbaic, worthless people abused young girls in such a way. They could have purple unicorns from Mars and my contempt would be no different.

I read men abusing children.

ethnicity was only revelant because nearly all the perpetrators were of Pakistan oreign
unfortunately it has been going on in many cities with very large pakistan populations. Particularly where they are the majority population.

in the usa you hve some areas with a black majority with out anything like the taboos and difficulties we have in dealing with errant pakistan residents.

 

[MD]

ethnicity was only revelant because nearly all the perpetrators were of Pakistan oreign
unfortunately it has been going on in many cities with very large pakistan populations. Particularly where they are the majority population.

in the usa you hve some areas with a black majority with out anything like the taboos and difficulties we have in dealing with errant pakistan residents.

Except Pakistanis haven't faced centuries of slavery and institutionalized racism. And there aren't black gangs which target 1400 children! And if there were they wouldn't be given light sentences.

Seems like the UK justifies criminal behavior and protects psychopaths. And not a single feminist or liberal has come out on this forum with outrage, as they rather focus on far away wars and ridiculous topics like **** shaming instead of real atrocities at home.

 

[Alceste]

I don't understand why race/ethncity is relevant at all.

I read the article twice and what registered/resonated with me was the fact that some barbaic, worthless people abused young girls in such a way. They could have purple unicorns from Mars and my contempt would be no different.

I read men abusing children.

Me too. To focus on the ethnicity of this particular group of pedophiles as a significant factor is an attribution error. There are pedophile rings in every culture and demographic.

That information is highly elevant to police when searching for suspects, but not relevant to me in saying "F*** child abusers. Death is too good for 'em."

 

[Alceste]

ethnicity was only revelant because nearly all the perpetrators were of Pakistan oreign
unfortunately it has been going on in many cities with very large pakistan populations. Particularly where they are the majority population.

in the usa you hve some areas with a black majority with out anything like the taboos and difficulties we have in dealing with errant pakistan residents.

I gotta admit, the creepy middle aged man who chased me through a Calgary shopping mall when I was 12 was of Pakistani origin.

 

[Poeticus]

Speaking as a South Asian, I wouldn't be as generous as to slide this one away as an attribution error. There are valid socio-cultural contexts that must be recognized:

targeting of Sikh and Hindu females in order to manipulate them into covering to Islam

targeting of White British females in order to sexually exploit them because they are seen as "easy" and as subtle forms of "revenge" for colonialism

in all of these cases, the goal is to exploit and abuse

those that are unwilling to convert, especially the South Asian (aka: Desi) Sikh and Hindu females since it is they that are targeted especially for this very purpose, they can be sexually exploited through non-attached grooming​

This, in South Asia and especially in India, is called "Love Jihad". In the UK, however, it has become "Rape Jihad". While radical Muslim youths that play to the tunes of disturbing communal harmony will emotionally exploit non-Muslim females in order to get them to convert and in most cases the youths will end up marrying the females, the case in the UK is different. In these cases, females are not ultimately targeted for "acquisition for conversion", so to speak. Instead, they are to be manipulated for sexual exploitation (i.e., forced prostitution), and the usage of date-rape drugs enables such exploitation to become easier. In other words, it is a communal mini-war through the specific targeting of various ethno-religious groups.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Me too. To focus on the ethnicity of this particular group of pedophiles as a significant factor is an attribution error. There are pedophile rings in every culture and demographic.

That information is highly elevant to police when searching for suspects, but not relevant to me in saying "F*** child abusers. Death is too good for 'em."

That is exactly how they got away with it. It became a greater perceived crime to say pakistani . Than for them to abuse children... no official or police force dare investigate exclusively pakastani gangs of abusers.
even those that were prosecuted cried racism as a defence.
to acuse them became a racist crime.

 

[MD]

The more I read about this, the angrier I get. This is something that has been happening for a long time in the UK. To label these Pakistani filths under the umbrella 'asian' is such an insult to all other Asians out there who don't have the same Pakistani mindset. Stuff like this makes me glad guns are legal in America.

Since the Police and authorities are completely useless at this:

Where are the Sikh and Hindu gangs to counter this? What about EDL and BNP? Why aren't there vigilante groups protecting these girls?

When you have a country where 1400 kids are abused in one town and liberals just brush it off as routine criminal activity, you have a ****** up country.

 

[Alceste]

That is exactly how they got away with it. It became a greater perceived crime to say pakistani . Than for them to abuse children... no official or police force dare investigate exclusively pakastani gangs of abusers.
even those that were prosecuted cried racism as a defence.
to acuse them became a racist crime.

That's a problem. If I go into a police station and report a crime, and give a description of the suspect, obviously the police HAVE TO take that description to heart in pursuing the perpetrator.

The issue here seems to be that they made no effort to investigate the crimes at all, not that they were afraid to say "Pakistani".

Having perused quite a few UK social services files in a mostly white county, I don't think the problem of civil servants not taking the sexual abuse of children seriously is limited to areas with a lot of Pakistani immigrants. I've seen more than my fair share of files that screamed "cover up", especially at risk children in care.

It seems that in the UK in general, civil servants tend not to take allegations sexual abuse very seriously, regardless of their origin. The files I read were filled with frank accounts related by children, followed by social service workers hemming and hawing over whether it actually happened as reported, and then having no idea what to do about it either way.

I am of course NOT saying this problem is not well represented by this particular case involving a Pakistani community. I just don't think this is the ONLY such problem, and thinking of it as a Pakistani problem is letting a hell of a lot of white, full-blooded English sex abusers off the hook.

 

[Poeticus]

Where are the Sikh and Hindu gangs to counter this?

UK Sikhs and Hindus are too busy concentrating on becoming doctors or entrepreneurs.

But there are awareness group (for example, in that BBC documentary there was a Sikh Awareness group at a Gurudwara). The problem, however, is that when a Desi female is raped, it is seen as a loss of honor for the Desi parents---and I'm sure you are familiar with this horrid, backward reality. I thought this was prominent only in the rural villages of, say, Uttar Pradesh and Haryana for example. But it has been brought here by Desi expatriates in the West. They won't really even do that much to get to the bottom of it; and in most cases, many of them are practically stunned that such a thing can happen and don't really know how to proceed onwards. And it's not just Sikh and Hindu Desi females. Heck, so many moderate, progressive Muslim females get tons of slack from their Desi parents---especially if they are caught dating non-Muslim Desis. And sometimes, it tragically ends in honor killings. It just never makes the news that often because mainstream media doesn't know how to approach it (cultural sensitivity and that type of jazz).

 

[MD]

UK Sikhs and Hindus are too busy concentrating on becoming doctors or entrepreneurs.

But there are awareness group (for example, in that BBC documentary there was a Sikh Awareness group at a Gurudwara). The problem, however, is that when a Desi female is raped, it is seen as a loss of honor for the Desi parents---and I'm sure you are familiar with this horrid, backward reality. I thought this was prominent only in the rural villages of, say, Uttar Pradesh and Haryana for example. But it has been brought here by Desi expatriates in the West. They won't really even do that much to get to the bottom of it; and in most cases, many of them are practically stunned that such a thing can happen and don't really know how to proceed onwards. And it's not just Sikh and Hindu Desi females. Heck, so many moderate, progressive Muslim females get tons of slack from their Desi parents---especially if they are caught dating non-Muslim Desis. And sometimes, it tragically ends in honor killings. It just never makes the news that often because mainstream media doesn't know how to approach it (cultural sensitivity and that type of jazz).

This is true, but we have to change our mentality. If the police and authorities protect Pakistani gangs and psychopaths, then we have to start forming our own defense groups to protect our people. This would NEVER happen in Toronto or Vancouver or anywhere in the U.S. because not only would the Police and authorities be a lot more decisive in their actions, the local desi youth would not just watch if no justice was served.

What's the point of being a doctor or an entrepreneur if your Khandaans izzat has been destroyed, especially when there is no justice served?