Alarming Report: 1,400 Kids Sexually Exploited In UK Town

[Poeticus]

This would NEVER happen in Toronto or Vancouver or anywhere in the U.S.

I don't know about the U.S., but Sikh Punjabis (especially Jatt-Sikhs) and Tamil Hindus of Toronto and Vancouver would go apesh*t. Literally. It would be a bloodbath. Sikhs and Tamil Hindus in the Kaneda don't joke, yo. They be militantly alpha. :cover:

EDIT: It seems the Sri Lankan Tamil community in the Kaneda has now calmed in recent years. A few years ago, they used to be actively militant: having Tamil gangs and such.

 

[MD]

I don't know about the U.S., but Sikh Punjabis (especially Jatt-Sikhs) and Tamil Hindus of Toronto and Vancouver would go apesh*t. Literally. It would be a bloodbath. Sikhs and Tamil Hindus in the Kaneda don't joke, yo. They be militantly alpha. :cover:

Pretty much, the biggest gangs in Toronto growing up were Punjabi and Tamil. I actually saw a Punjabi gang vs Tamil gang fight, where a Punjabi guy had his skull cracked by a Tamil guy with a baseball bat after which the Tamil guy laughed and at that point I ran. They had all sorts of weapons and ammunition because they were linked with LTTE, and a couple of friends of mine were stabbed and almost killed. The Tamils were very dangerous and feared. The Punjabis were the only other gang to stand up to them.

The Pakistanis here are pretty docile in comparison.

 

[Poeticus]

What's the point of being a doctor or an entrepreneur if your Khandaans izzat has been destroyed, especially when there is no justice served?

But to be very honest, one of the worst things that a Desi parent can do is neglect their daughter or daughters if she or they have been brutalized communally. And in many cases, the neglect is intensified through shaming and exclusion. Sometimes, they are even married off as soon as possible to "preserve family name and honor". This affects Hindu, Sikh, and Muslim Desis. Sometimes, I get the feeling that Muslim Desi girls that are caught dating non-Muslims in the West have it worse than Sikh and Hindu Desi females. Heck, remember this ? Harry Potter star 'beaten after meeting non-Muslim man' - Telegraph.

 

[Pegg]

these things happen all over the world by people in very high stations of life and those at the very lowest.

The world of man has reached extraordinary depths of depravity.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

In Britain, the ratio of Muslims:Hindus:Sikhs is roughly 5:2:1, so most "Asians" are going to be from Pakistan and Bangladesh. Moreover, different communities live in different areas. In London, Sikh means Hounslow but Muslim means Tower Hamlets. So, when a British newspaper talks about Asians in Rotherham it's not "smearing all Asians" because the readers know that they're mostly Pakistanis. If US papers just copy ours and are misunderstood, that's their problem.

This is an ethnic and religious problem. The criminals were almost all Pakistanis or Afghans, the victims almost all English. An imam in Oxford admitted it, and said if you have an ethnic community who regard women as inferior and mosques who teach them to regard non-muslims as infidels, then abusing Christian girls will not seem such a great crime to them. And that's an imam talking.

As for the criticism of "short sentences", do the death penalty, long jail sentences, and horrific conditions in US prisons actually reduce crime? Do you have fewer crimes than we do? I think not.

 

[MD]

But to be very honest, one of the worst things that a Desi parent can do is neglect their daughter or daughters if she or they have been brutalized communally. And in many cases, the neglect is intensified through shaming and exclusion. Sometimes, they are even married off as soon as possible to "preserve family name and honor". This affects Hindu, Sikh, and Muslim Desis. Sometimes, I get the feeling that Muslim Desi girls that are caught dating non-Muslims in the West have it worse than Sikh and Hindu Desi females. Heck, remember this ? Harry Potter star 'beaten after meeting non-Muslim man' - Telegraph.

Yea I dated a muslim Pakistani girl for a few months but we broke up because she was always worried for my life because she said her dad would kill me if he found out. I would always laugh because her dad was half my size, but it was a big burden on our relationship.

 

[xkatz]

... in Marylander Speak, us Marylanders call this: barbaric savagery.

You're from Maryland? Me too!

 

[MD]

As for the criticism of "short sentences", do the death penalty, long jail sentences, and horrific conditions in US prisons actually reduce crime? Do you have fewer crimes than we do? I think not.

Atleast we don't let 1400 girls get sexually abused and give slap on the wrists to the perpetrators who were protected by the authorities for years over fears over being labelled as 'racist'.

Own up to your country's failures and cowardice.

 

[MD]

UKIP Deputy Chairman: Rotherham Could've Been Avoided With More Democratic Oversight

"Can anyone with any shred of decency not be left feeling desolate and driven to righteous anger by the news from Rotherham? At least 1400 girls, some as young as eleven, repeatedly gang raped, abducted, prostituted, beaten, intimidated, made to watch pornography of the most vile kind, even doused in petrol and threatened with immolation. How could this have gone unchallenged, here in Britain, for at least sixteen years? "

I ask again where is the feminist anger in all this?

 

[Alceste]

these things happen all over the world by people in very high stations of life and those at the very lowest.

The world of man has reached extraordinary depths of depravity.

Lol, cuz nobody raped anybody in Biblical times. That's why the Bible has so many stories and rules about it.

 

[Alceste]

UK Sikhs and Hindus are too busy concentrating on becoming doctors or entrepreneurs.

But there are awareness group (for example, in that BBC documentary there was a Sikh Awareness group at a Gurudwara). The problem, however, is that when a Desi female is raped, it is seen as a loss of honor for the Desi parents---and I'm sure you are familiar with this horrid, backward reality. I thought this was prominent only in the rural villages of, say, Uttar Pradesh and Haryana for example. But it has been brought here by Desi expatriates in the West. They won't really even do that much to get to the bottom of it; and in most cases, many of them are practically stunned that such a thing can happen and don't really know how to proceed onwards. And it's not just Sikh and Hindu Desi females. Heck, so many moderate, progressive Muslim females get tons of slack from their Desi parents---especially if they are caught dating non-Muslim Desis. And sometimes, it tragically ends in honor killings. It just never makes the news that often because mainstream media doesn't know how to approach it (cultural sensitivity and that type of jazz).

The highlighted bit is the real problem here, and affects every demographic that has to deal with child sexual abuse issues. IOW, all of them.

 

[oldbadger]

UKIP Deputy Chairman: Rotherham Could've Been Avoided With More Democratic Oversight

"Can anyone with any shred of decency not be left feeling desolate and driven to righteous anger by the news from Rotherham? At least 1400 girls, some as young as eleven, repeatedly gang raped, abducted, prostituted, beaten, intimidated, made to watch pornography of the most vile kind, even doused in petrol and threatened with immolation. How could this have gone unchallenged, here in Britain, for at least sixteen years? "

I ask again where is the feminist anger in all this?

shahz..... last year (Jan 2013) I wrote about child abuse and mentioned police investigations in the North of England that were just being initiated.... 400 of them at that time. An American member wrote to me:-

I don't really give a rat's hindquarters about allegations, oldbadger. How many criminal cases are filed and under investigation? Any?

That's how reactions can vary..... that member could not believe me..... another member kept repeating 'Islamophobia' at me.

These dreadful crimes have happened in South Yorkshire. I am waiting for the Lancashire crimes to surface. There is worse to come. Much worse.

 

[MD]

shahz..... last year (Jan 2013) I wrote about child abuse and mentioned police investigations in the North of England that were just being initiated.... 400 of them at that time. An American member wrote to me:-

That's how reactions can vary..... that member could not believe me..... another member kept repeating 'Islamophobia' at me.

These dreadful crimes have happened in South Yorkshire. I am waiting for the Lancashire crimes to surface. There is worse to come. Much worse.

There are only two options available here, either you guys clean up the growing mess of Jihadism, Islamic gangs and the liberal nightmare there, or far right wing groups like BNP and EDL will gain more power and promote vigilante gangs. They won't hold back. 1400 abused mostly white kids pushed under the rug because their abusers were Pakistani and the people didn't want to look 'racist' is so sickening and I'm not even English.

 

[Pegg]

Lol, cuz nobody raped anybody in Biblical times. That's why the Bible has so many stories and rules about it.

i dont think the dark ages ever went away tbh.

 

[Alceste]

i dont think the dark ages ever went away tbh.

A Buddhist friend of mine put it in perspective for me the other day. He'd been to Romania to visit family and contemplated a few things. For example, if he'd lived there four hundred years ago, he'd be dead by 35, and probably missing bits and pieces if he survived from the perpetual violence everybody endured in that day and age. His home would have been burglarized multiple times, and every woman he knew would have been raped, usually more than once, and many of them killed in the process.

His comments were in the context of me expressing concern for what I think is a rising tide of misogyny that is paired with economic hardship, which is growing. And I had to admit things are not so bad now as they once were. In fact, they're better than ever, ESPECIALLY for women and children.

We have the laws, we have the tools to enforce them, we only lack the will.

 

[dust1n]

Is the supposed rate of rape in this particular city very different from the national average for rape in the UK?

 

[Pegg]

A Buddhist friend of mine put it in perspective for me the other day. He'd been to Romania to visit family and contemplated a few things. For example, if he'd lived there four hundred years ago, he'd be dead by 35, and probably missing bits and pieces if he survived from the perpetual violence everybody endured in that day and age. His home would have been burglarized multiple times, and every woman he knew would have been raped, usually more than once, and many of them killed in the process.

His comments were in the context of me expressing concern for what I think is a rising tide of misogyny that is paired with economic hardship, which is growing. And I had to admit things are not so bad now as they once were. In fact, they're better than ever, ESPECIALLY for women and children.

We have the laws, we have the tools to enforce them, we only lack the will.

I have to disagree. I seriously believe we are in just as much trouble as they were 400 years.

Yes we are living longer, but what's the value in that when society is so messed up?

If you need to put things in perspective, consider this: all the same things go on today behind closed doors. Thats why this thread is entitled 1,400 kids sexually exploited in 'one' town.

Now put that in perspective and ask yourself if one town could produce so much abuse, how much abuse is happening in the next town and then the one next to that....

Now we start to see a broarder picture....there are likely to be millions of such children being abused when you take it on a world wide scale. And this is just one problem.

 

[oldbadger]

There are only two options available here, either you guys clean up the growing mess of Jihadism, Islamic gangs and the liberal nightmare there, or far right wing groups like BNP and EDL will gain more power and promote vigilante gangs. They won't hold back. 1400 abused mostly white kids pushed under the rug because their abusers were Pakistani and the people didn't want to look 'racist' is so sickening and I'm not even English.

Yes...... we must.
We always wake up too late.
It may be too late..... look at France next door....
From what some UKIP politicians say in their less bright moments it would seem that some BNP friendly folks are insinuated into that new party.
But...... the presence of UKIP may kick our next cabinet into action.

 

[MD]

Yes...... we must.
We always wake up too late.
It may be too late..... look at France next door....
From what some UKIP politicians say in their less bright moments it would seem that some BNP friendly folks are insinuated into that new party.
But...... the presence of UKIP may kick our next cabinet into action.

The perpetrators should be executed, nothing more nothing less. The officials who let this happen willingly knowing what was happening should receive 20 years in prison.
That's the only true justice, 1400 children is too much. I hope the UK wakes up from the nightmare the Liberals have put it into, but it might be too late.

This would never happen in North America.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

The perpetrators should be executed, nothing more nothing less. The officials who let this happen willingly knowing what was happening should receive 20 years in prison.
That's the only true justice, 1400 children is too much. I hope the UK wakes up from the nightmare the Liberals have put it into, but it might be too late.

This would never happen in North America.

How do you know?
If you have pakistani ghettos in the USA then it might have already happened.
Grooming goes on in all countries, and the victims are terrified to speak out.
We know many asian girls were also involved but NONE have come forward.

It is nothing to do with liberals. the officials and police are not party appointed in the UK. However in the areas in question most local government is labour controlled, with a high proportion of Pakistani councillors. And the senior police are more often conservative.

1400 children are from that one district. Every large city can have such districts. no one knows the extent of the problem. as only a few dozen have been caught and imprisoned.