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Albert Einstein and the occult

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I was just looking through Einstein quotes and realized how similar to occult theory a lot of his ideas were. For example

There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.

It reminds me of the idea that the difference between a magician and a layman is the magician recognizes every intentional act as an act of magick. I know Newton was am alchemist along with others, and I'm curious if Einstein was as well. Sadly I don't have time right now to pour through sources so I'm asking you guys!

Thanks.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
I was just looking through Einstein quotes and realized how similar to occult theory a lot of his ideas were. For example



It reminds me of the idea that the difference between a magician and a layman is the magician recognizes every intentional act as an act of magick. I know Newton was am alchemist along with others, and I'm curious if Einstein was as well. Sadly I don't have time right now to pour through sources so I'm asking you guys!

Thanks.

It's a fake quote.

Debunking Fake Albert Einstein Quotes | Skeptica Esoterica

There is no first hand source of Einstein’s writing or speeches that contains this quote. The first appearance of this quote that I can find is in Living With Nature’s Extremes: The Life of Gilbert Fowler White (2006) by Robert E. Hinshaw, p. 62. In this book Hinshaw quotes Gilbert Fowler White’s Journal of France and Germany (1942 – 1944) as the original source of the quote.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Ah. How about my Sig?

"If one conceives of religion and science according to these definitions then a conflict between them appears impossible. For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be, and outside of its domain value judgments of all kinds remain necessary. Religion, on the other hand, deals only with evaluations of human thought and action: it cannot justifiably speak of facts and relationships between facts. According to this interpretation the well-known conflicts between religion and science in the past must all be ascribed to a misapprehension of the situation which has been described."

“Though religion may be that which determines the goal, it has, nevertheless, learned from science, in the broadest sense, what means will contribute to the attainment of the goals it has set up. But science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

Einstein Quote About Religion and Science Was Wrong, Misinterpreted | New Republic

It's legit.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
"If one conceives of religion and science according to these definitions then a conflict between them appears impossible. For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be, and outside of its domain value judgments of all kinds remain necessary. Religion, on the other hand, deals only with evaluations of human thought and action: it cannot justifiably speak of facts and relationships between facts. According to this interpretation the well-known conflicts between religion and science in the past must all be ascribed to a misapprehension of the situation which has been described."

“Though religion may be that which determines the goal, it has, nevertheless, learned from science, in the broadest sense, what means will contribute to the attainment of the goals it has set up. But science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

Einstein Quote About Religion and Science Was Wrong, Misinterpreted | New Republic

It's legit.

Sweet thanks for the help
 

The Sum of Awe

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Premium Member
I never understood why fake quotes exist in the first place. People must really like making people misquote. Maybe it's a fetish.

"I'm going to sacrifice myself for the sins of mankind, but first, lemme take a selfie" Jesus Christ
 
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1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I never understood why fake quotes exist in the first place. People must really like making people misquote. Maybe it's a fetish.

"I'm going to sacrifice myself for the sins of mankind, but first, lemme take a selfie" Jesus Christ

Right?

I think that it is to take an idea they have and make it seem more valid. What's better - something some self-help author comes up with or Albert Einstein having said something that backs his or her point?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Right?

I think that it is to take an idea they have and make it seem more valid. What's better - something some self-help author comes up with or Albert Einstein having said something that backs his or her point?

That seems likely. To be honest though, I find self-discovered things to be more valid. If something is accepted simply because a well-known person said it, it spoils the sanctity of self discovery, what I feel is the most important; a path created by you is a path you recognize a lot more.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
That seems likely. To be honest though, I find self-discovered things to be more valid. If something is accepted simply because a well-known person said it, it spoils the sanctity of self discovery, what I feel is the most important; a path created by you is a path you recognize a lot more.

I agree.
 
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