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aliens, ufos from other dimensions?
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Serpent Child
Member
Yes. In my faith Satan & His Daemons are advanced Siddha's from other galaxies, highly advanced extraterrestrials and the Original Pagan Gods. 
Electus de Lumine
Magician of Light
Yes. In my faith Satan & His Daemons are advanced Siddha's from other galaxies, highly advanced extraterrestrials and the Original Pagan Gods.
They asked if aliens where really supernatural in nature. Not if things supernatural in nature where actually aliens.
If I had to take a position on the subject, I would state that to the extent that the alien phenomenon is real, it is demonic. It doesn't make sense that extraterrestrials would come to earth to scare and molest humans all the while teaching their abductees New Age philosophy. (And do do it over the course of decades no less).
It makes perfect sense however if we're dealing with deceptive spirits who are (sometimes literally) screwing with us. Of course I don't expect my view to be too popular here, but it's an interesting subject for me as I have had multiple and vivid dreams involving greys throughout the years.
Of course I believe most of the stories are just that, stories. Modern folklore.
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I am thinking both.
Shem Ben Noah
INACTIVE
Almost, but not quite. 'Other dimensions or planes' implies that they are not physical. I believe that what we call aliens are physical entities from earth in alternate universes that by technology or natural phenomena found a way to cross by some portal or gate into ours. This to me makes more sense than FTL travel, which would be required considering interstellar distances. If one subscribes to a multiverse theory, then there is an infinite number of alternate earths, and if anything like a gateway between them is even remotely possible (anything greater than zero chance) then there is an infinite number of possible aliens who have this ability. The only reason we're not flooded with them is they also have an infinite number of earths to visit.
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ajay0
Well-Known Member
It may be that they may be using worm holes to travel incredibly long distances in a shorter span of time.
This might look like coming from an another dimension or plane, but it is not.
ajay0
Well-Known Member
That would be similar to generalising or stereotyping. The Buddhist monk Rampa encountered friendly and wise aliens in his astral travels, as per his books.
They greys may be a problem, but to term all aliens as demonic is similar to terming all from a certain religion or country on earth as demonic.
The possibility of technology transfer with friendly alien civilizations can boost material progress on the earth by many centuries.
How we approach the subject depends very much on our preconceptions. I hold to a Christian wordview, so the supposed encounters of a Buddhist monk using astral projection doesn't at all move me away from the notion that the supposed aliens are nothing more than deceptive spirits. Channelers and mediums (who aren't just frauds) and all those who presume contact with these things are mere pawns. (If not just delusional of course).
Trusting in any supposed messages gained by occult or new age means is immensely foolish IMO, because you have no way of knowing who is really on the other end of that phone.
I don't believe in aliens, but I do believe in the demonic who may present themselves as such.
As I said, you won't like my views here. But I wouldn't hold them if I didn't think they were not correct.
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allfoak
Alchemist
If you have ever met one, you would know the answer.
I could tell you that they are on a higher plane of existence than where the average person exists but it means nothing to those who have not experienced this phenomenon.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
I'm not aware of any reason to believe that is even possible, let alone that it actually happened. You seem to be making the common error of stating with a compelling conclusion then seeking evidence for it. That's entirely the wrong way around.
allfoak
Alchemist
if you have had the experience of seeing them you would have reason enough to believe they exist.
Super Universe
Defender of God
The multi-verse is a school system run by the angels. God's children start as material beings and then die and leave their body behind and move up into a higher level of what you call space/time. Think of the earth as pre-school, the next level is first grade. There are many levels of space/time you must ascend through and then heaven is a separate level as heaven is non-space/time.
As beings move up through the levels they learn more and more about God and how His universe really works. These beings are what we call angels. There are also created angels who never live a material life who do work in the multi-verse.
There are also beings who have evolved into the higher levels but are outside the angels school system. These beings are able to channel with humans who have the ability. Sometimes these beings are good, sometimes they are bad. One unique species of higher level beings has a combined consciousness, like a hive mind. They don't think as individuals. They preach that we are all "one". Generally you can tell if a being is good or bad by their fruit. If they cause fear or preach fear "A catastrophe is coming!" You should beware.
There are trillions of planets with sentient life in the material universe alone, not even counting the multi-verse levels. Aliens come in many types and exist on every one of the eleven levels. One of the higher levels is not meant for God's children at all, you will pass through it quickly, like changing planes at an airport.
In the material universe, good aliens rarely come to the earth because they follow the rule of non-interference. Bad aliens come here often. They do so for varied reasons. One species of bad aliens does not have the ability to attract a soul so they come here to experiment on and learn about God's newest material personality experiment. They love to create fear to fulfill their desire for power and control over God's children. It's like a drug to them. This bad alien species was not produced by the angels, it was produced by another alien species.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
That depends on the nature of the encounter. I could tell you that I'm an a alien from another dimension but with nothing to back that claim up it doesn't prove anything. Even if I performed some apparently super-human feat, I could be lying about the reason I'm capable of it. I might even have the ability to make you believe with such certainty that my lies are true.
allfoak
Alchemist
Okay
Maybe both. Actually aliens are from outer space, but they are made of dark matter so we can not see them. This website maybe of interest: The Great UFO Coverup Conspiracy
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
Seriously?
But if you shone a torch on them, surely then you could see them?
Yes, seriously. If you have not heard of dark matter before, here is the wiki page: Dark matter - Wikipedia - from the page: 'dark matter is thus invisible to the entire electromagnetic spectrum'
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Of course not. Likely that billions of intelligent alien civilizations exist in the universe though.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
I agree that most if not all "alien abductions" are not real. I do believe intelligent aliens exist in great numbers in this universe but I do not believe they have visited Earth yet.