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aliens, ufos from other dimensions?

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
Yes, seriously. If you have not heard of dark matter before, here is the wiki page: Dark matter - Wikipedia - from the page: 'dark matter is thus invisible to the entire electromagnetic spectrum'

Aah.
So dark matter is transparent?
Then why don't they call it transparent matter?

So glass is dark matter..hmmm
Then spray these 'dark-matter' aliens with luminous spray-paint!

Or is it that spray-paint just passes through 'dark matter'?
Unless you are saying that 'dark-matter' has no volume or form to it too?
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Aah.
So dark matter is transparent?
Then why don't they call it transparent matter?

So glass is dark matter..hmmm
Then spray these 'dark-matter' aliens with luminous spray-paint!

Or is it that spray-paint just passes through 'dark matter'?
Unless you are saying that 'dark-matter' has no volume or form to it too?
'Dark matter' is a term coined by scientists. You may need to visit some research universities to ask them why they named it that way. I don't think glass is considered to be dark matter - it is not invisible even though it is transparent.

I guess if you knew that an alien was standing in front of you, you could spray-paint him. But how would you know?
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
'Dark matter' is a term coined by scientists. You may need to visit some research universities to ask them why they named it that way. I don't think glass is considered to be dark matter - it is not invisible even though it is transparent.

I guess if you knew that an alien was standing in front of you, you could spray-paint him. But how would you know?

Well, spray paint is not the only way to detect things not visible.
You may accidentally walk into the 'dark matter alien'.
Why do you think that visiting a university is better than seeing what they
have to say by their articles on the www?

I have studied dark matter quite a bit, and the only proof of its existence
is simply that they had a statistical theory that suggested that a certain
amount of light in the universe represented a certain amount of matter.

Then, because of gravitational lensing, they realized that there was more
matter than their statistics had previously suggested. So this extra matter
was called 'dark matter' because it was not associated with emitted light.

Beyond that, I'm afraid it is just normal matter.
I cannot read wiki articles because they mostly have been written by people
with obsessive-compulsive-disorder.
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
All I was trying to say was that the name 'dark matter' is not mine, it is coined by scientists.

I doubt if aliens are walking around on earth all the time, so that you can run into them accidentally. BTW, you are right about dark matter being like normal matter but it does not respond to light or any electromagnetic waves. Which is the reason we have not been able to detect any aliens so far.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I believe advanced Beings, Gods and Angels and Demons are both from other planets in some cases, but also from other universes and dimensions, as well as can be from Earth and more specifically from under the Earth.

Case in point, Lord Ravana who adopted Rakshasas who traveled from space to Sri Lanka (Rakshasas are types of Demons) as his "pets" or "children" in some cases but also as his "followers" (they definetly were his followers and he was also a Guru as well as King) and who became King of the Demons was once one of the Door Keepers of Heaven (in this case 7th) and who fell, but gained additional powers by yoga, he was a great devotee of Shiva who came from another Universe.
 
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Rockstar Matt

Astrophysicist
Maybe both. Actually aliens are from outer space, but they are made of dark matter so we can not see them. This website maybe of interest: The Great UFO Coverup Conspiracy

That's not what Dark Matter is...

Dark Matter is improperly named. It should be named "Dark Gravity" because that's what we see. We see this gravitational force affecting the universe, yet we cannot directly observe the source of this gravity in anyway. It doesn't react to the electromagnetic spectrum, which our main tool of peering into the universe.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
That's not what Dark Matter is...

Dark Matter is improperly named. It should be named "Dark Gravity" because that's what we see. We see this gravitational force affecting the universe, yet we cannot directly observe the source of this gravity in anyway. It doesn't react to the electromagnetic spectrum, which our main tool of peering into the universe.
Dark matter is then the source of dark gravity??
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's not what Dark Matter is...

Dark Matter is improperly named. It should be named "Dark Gravity" because that's what we see. We see this gravitational force affecting the universe, yet we cannot directly observe the source of this gravity in anyway. It doesn't react to the electromagnetic spectrum, which our main tool of peering into the universe.
I don't know how scientists have measured the amount of mass in the universe, it may have been by measuring gravity. So you can name the measurement as measurement of 'dark gravity', but the gravity is still caused by some kind of mass (whether you call it dark matter or something else).

From what I understand, most aliens in the universe are made of dark matter, which is why we have not discovered any yet. In fact, I believe that Mars has aliens made of dark matter, living in buildings made of dark matter but to us it looks completely uninhabited. So you should tell your friends at NASA (if you have any) not to plan on colonizing Mars just yet, it is already too crowded.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
do you think that aliens and ufos are from other dimensions or planes, and not from outer space?

No. You would need to establish that dimensions and planes exist first.

I do think the likelihood of alien life is very possible concidering the countless planets that inhabit the goldilocks zone. Just a matter of time I think.
 

Rockstar Matt

Astrophysicist
Dark matter is then the source of dark gravity??

Probably, but we know so little about it that it's hard to conclusively say it is or it isn't. It's truly mysterious. Currently, our universe is estimated to be made up of 96% dark matter, and 4% regular matter (everything we can see including Earth). So it's really anyones guess as to a.) what's causing this gravitational force that we cannot detect and b.) if the source is in fact matter (which it most likely is), why is it so abundant and why is it so difficult to measure.
 
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Rockstar Matt

Astrophysicist
I don't know how scientists have measured the amount of mass in the universe, it may have been by measuring gravity. So you can name the measurement as measurement of 'dark gravity', but the gravity is still caused by some kind of mass (whether you call it dark matter or something else).

From what I understand, most aliens in the universe are made of dark matter, which is why we have not discovered any yet. In fact, I believe that Mars has aliens made of dark matter, living in buildings made of dark matter but to us it looks completely uninhabited. So you should tell your friends at NASA (if you have any) not to plan on colonizing Mars just yet, it is already too crowded.

You have to understand a couple of things before I continue:

Firstly, we have technically never detected life outside of this planet. Regardless of our own opinions on the existence of extraterrestrial life, officially we haven't confirmed the existence of E.T.'s. So I cannot take your knowledge of these "dark matter aliens" as fact, seeing as there's no evidence to back up those claims.

Secondly, if there is life presently on Mars, it'll be simple microbial life. That planet may have harbored multi-cellular life at some point, but that would have been billions of years ago. The planet has died. It's core is no longer molten and thusly, no longer produces an electromagnetic field strong enough to protect the planet from solar rays, and cosmic rays to an extant. This is why the atmosphere on that planet is so thin and why we humans have had tremendous difficulty in landing probes on the surface for years because of it. This is why Mars no longer possesses large amounts of surface water (which it use to, by the way).
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You have to understand a couple of things before I continue:

Firstly, we have technically never detected life outside of this planet. Regardless of our own opinions on the existence of extraterrestrial life, officially we haven't confirmed the existence of E.T.'s. So I cannot take your knowledge of these "dark matter aliens" as fact, seeing as there's no evidence to back up those claims.

Secondly, if there is life presently on Mars, it'll be simple microbial life. That planet may have harbored multi-cellular life at some point, but that would have been billions of years ago. The planet has died. It's core is no longer molten and thusly, no longer produces an electromagnetic field strong enough to protect the planet from solar rays, and cosmic rays to an extant. This is why the atmosphere on that planet is so thin and why we humans have had tremendous difficulty in landing probes on the surface for years because of it. This is why Mars no longer possesses large amounts of surface water (which it use to, by the way).
I realize you can not take my words about 'dark matter aliens' as fact. That is quite understandable and OK. I am just passing on information for your consideration.

Aliens made of dark matter of course do not need anything like atmosphere or air or water (which are all made of physical matter). They just need other dark matter stuff to survive. I don't know how they handle the solar rays - perhaps the rays don't affect them the same way they affect us.

I believe the aliens will reveal themselves in the next 15-20 years (or sooner), so if you live that long you will find out for yourself.
 

Rockstar Matt

Astrophysicist
I realize you can not take my words about 'dark matter aliens' as fact. That is quite understandable and OK. I am just passing on information for your consideration.

Aliens made of dark matter of course do not need anything like atmosphere or air or water (which are all made of physical matter). They just need other dark matter stuff to survive. I don't know how they handle the solar rays - perhaps the rays don't affect them the same way they affect us.

I believe the aliens will reveal themselves in the next 15-20 years (or sooner), so if you live that long you will find out for yourself.

As much as I would like to say that you're wrong about certain types of extra terrestrial life being made up of dark matter, I cannot actually say this isn't possible. Since we don't understand what the true nature of dark matter is, all current hypothesis's cannot be ruled out. Including life being made out of dark matter. It would be really fascinating if this were true though. It would change everything we understand about the universe.

Personally, I have no doubt aliens exist. On whether or not they're currently visiting Earth is up for debate (I don't believe they are; there just simply isn't any compelling evidence to suggest otherwise), but it is a statistical impossibility that they don't. I'm pretty confident that we're going to find alien life in our own solar system this century, either fossilized or active microbial life. It's a matter of time at this point.
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I am glad you are keeping an open mind about such possibilities. It maybe sooner than 15 years - the aliens are just waiting for the Earth to become civilized, before they reveal themselves.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Probably, but we know so little about it that it's hard to conclusively say it is or it isn't. It's truly mysterious. Currently, our universe is estimated to be made up of 96% dark matter, and 4% regular matter (everything we can see including Earth). So it's really anyones guess as to a.) what's causing this gravitational force that we cannot detect and b.) if the source is in fact matter (which it most likely is), why is it so abundant and why is it so difficult to measure.
In the theosophical/occult /Vedic schools that I am influenced by, they describe planes of nature beyond our three-dimensional physical plane that exist in dimensions (4th, 5th, 6th, ??) dimensions and at a vibratory rate not detectable by our grosser physical senses and instruments. Each of the planes/realms has matter native to its plane.

I am speculating that this stuff does exist and science places it under the term dark matter/energy. This is the place were so-called non-physical and spiritual beings (like the astral afterlife plane) naturally reside. And I also speculate like @soulsurvivor that so-called aliens are interdimensional beings meaning they can operate above the physical plane.

My sources for my position are the many masters/seers/channels that I believe perceive beyond the physical senses.
 
I think 'the greys' are probably some kind of clone/drone creation sent in by another kind of extraterrestrial to investigate us. That's why they appear so compassionless and uncaring. I think the grey colouring is probably a suit and the eyes are goggles of some sort. I picture aliens as sort of reptilian skinned and scared looking to us. I hope they are up there watching over us, stopping us from bombing the planet to bits. I like the idea of them interfering with nukes.
 
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