All Religions could be right

[Ubon]

are you sure all religions are made by man? what is your evidence? you have to differentiate between Cults and religions. a religion in our concept stem from One God, a revelation(not man written) and a prophet supported by signs and miracles.

where is your evidence the Bible was inspired by God, the Bible itself certainly was written by men, you cannot show God inspired the word.
you need evidence not me.
we know men wrote it, each book has a man's name, did God give them the words, you need to prove it.
Christians created the word faith because they cannot prove it.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

I think most are right about some things. No religion is infallible. There are different realms to visit such as different universes. There are afterlives, but there is also reincarnation and I believe most gods exist or did exist at one point in time.

 

[InChrist]

For one, if there is a god he clearly doesn't intervene, interact, or interfere with the world, so he already allows the "destructiveness of sin to go on". If god wanted to stop "evil" and "sin", he would've done so, or better yet not allowed for it to occur in the first place.

So are you blaming God for the wrongs in the world?

"Apparently, God is responsible for every child’s refusal to eat his peas and neglect of his homework and for every heated lovers’ quarrel and selfish action. He ought to make everyone behave like perfect saints? If God had made mankind robots programmed to do whatever He dictated, then He could be blamed for not stopping evil, suffering, and death—but there would also be no love. Every person knows that he has the power of choice, uses it continually, even to the point of being able to shake his fist at God, curse Him, and live in total rebellion of His laws written in every conscience—and is therefore without excuse."
The Water of Life
https://www.thebereancall.org/content/water-life

 

[InChrist]

But if it boils down to dealing justice in the afterlife, the punishment would have be proportionate to the offense, and since no human is capable of anything that's equivalent to eternal torment, that would clearly be unjust and the most vile evil of all. Punishment is supposed to be a learning experience and a deterrent to others. We wouldn't execute people or pull their fingernails out with pliers for parking violations, now would we? Eternal torture would be infinitely excessive and serve no purpose other than the sadistic gratification of a purely evil and demented god.

It would be excessively wrong and evil if it was God purposely designated people to an eternal state of suffering, nut that is not what He created us for. The reality revealed in the scriptures is that people choose to be separated from God, rejecting the goodness He has for their life here and eternally, the only Source of sustenance, love, light, and joy. By doing so, people cause their own eternal torment and suffering.

"But how could a loving God be so vengeful as to torment those who reject Christ in the flames of the Lake of Fire forever? This is not God’s choice for mankind. He loves us so much that He made His love the essential ingredient of our very existence. Thus, to be in the fullness of His love would be ecstasy; to be finally and without possible recovery separated from Him would be torture. That is why hell will be such torment for the same reason that heaven will be such exquisite pleasure and joy.


The best way to describe this spiritual reality in terms that we can understand is with water and thirst. Water tastes so good because it is essential to our life. Thirst hurts so bad for the same reason. God did not create us to be thirsty but to drink of His love. It is no more reasonable to blame God for our follies, failures, and sorrows than it is to say, “The Devil made me do it.”
The Water of Life

 

[Father Heathen]

So are you blaming God for the wrongs in the world?

Uh, nope. Just pointing out why your own presumptions about god are nonsense, which should've been clear since that's what I was replying to.

 

[Father Heathen]

It would be excessively wrong and evil if it was God purposely designated people to an eternal state of suffering, nut that is not what He created us for. The reality revealed in the scriptures is that people choose to be separated from God, rejecting the goodness He has for their life here and eternally, the only Source of sustenance, love, light, and joy. By doing so, people cause their own eternal torment and suffering.

"But how could a loving God be so vengeful as to torment those who reject Christ in the flames of the Lake of Fire forever? This is not God’s choice for mankind. He loves us so much that He made His love the essential ingredient of our very existence. Thus, to be in the fullness of His love would be ecstasy; to be finally and without possible recovery separated from Him would be torture. That is why hell will be such torment for the same reason that heaven will be such exquisite pleasure and joy.


The best way to describe this spiritual reality in terms that we can understand is with water and thirst. Water tastes so good because it is essential to our life. Thirst hurts so bad for the same reason. God did not create us to be thirsty but to drink of His love. It is no more reasonable to blame God for our follies, failures, and sorrows than it is to say, “The Devil made me do it.”
The Water of Life

Let's say I've constructed a pit of spikes with a tightrope across it, then forced you to walk it at gunpoint. Of course, being the nice guy I am, I would offer you a cookie if you made it. But if you fell in, it would be your own fault for not wanting that cookie bad enough, right?

 

[InChrist]

Uh, nope. Just pointing out why your own presumptions about god are nonsense, which should've been clear since that's what I was replying to.

I suppose you see no possibility that your presumptions about God are nonsense.

 

[InChrist]

Let's say I've constructed a pit of spikes with a tightrope across it, then forced you to walk it at gunpoint. Of course, being the nice guy I am, I would offer you a cookie if you made it. But if you fell in, it would be your own fault for not wanting that cookie bad enough, right?

Your analogy is incompatible with the scriptures, so it has no application to the God of the Bible. A better analogy might be that a kind person has placed a banquet in front of you each day, yet you refuse to partake, eating instead, maybe the paper napkins, eventually you painfully die of starvation. Is it the kind person's fault or yours?

 

[Father Heathen]

I suppose you see no possibility that your presumptions about God are nonsense.

And what presumptions are those?

 

[Father Heathen]

Your analogy is incompatible with the scriptures, so it has no application to the God of the Bible. A better analogy might be that a kind person has placed a banquet in front of you each day, yet you refuse to partake, eating instead, maybe the paper napkins, eventually you painfully die of starvation. Is it the kind person's fault or yours?

Nah, I'm afraid that my analogy was far more apt.