All Scientists Should Be Militant Atheists

[Saint Frankenstein]

Scientists should just be objective and not let their religious or political views sway them.

 

[psychoslice]

Scientists should just be objective and not let their religious or political views sway them.

I have never thought that science thought that way, of course science are objective, that's what science is, its when region sticks its nose into what it doesn't even understand that makes these stupid arguments arise.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Scientists should just be objective

We're humans. The best we can do is try to be aware of our biases so as to minimize them. Pretending we can be objective contaminates our research.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

We're humans. The best we can do is try to be aware of our biases so as to minimize them. Pretending we can be objective contaminates our research.

Good point.

 

[Ouroboros]

My position on god is that I lack a belief in him. Yes that is my position. If we are debating blond and not-blond I am not-blond. If you wanted my actual beliefs then we can discuss those but that isn't what I am debating when we debate god.

So you're bald and engage in debates about hairdos.

 

[Yorutenchi]

So you're bald and engage in debates about hairdos.

I don't have to propose being bald to argue that Mohawks are unprofessional.

 

[Curious George]

My position on god is that I lack a belief in him. Yes that is my position. If we are debating blond and not-blond I am not-blond. If you wanted my actual beliefs then we can discuss those but that isn't what I am debating when we debate god.

Really? So you don't believe that the lack of sufficient evidence provides a basis for not accepting the existence of god?

 

[Ouroboros]

I don't have to propose being bald to argue that Mohawks are unprofessional.

So you're a professional hairdresser with some authority when it comes to what is considered a "professional" hairdo or not?

 

[Yorutenchi]

Really? So you don't believe that the lack of sufficient evidence provides a basis for not accepting the existence of god?

It is the basis. It is the basis for "not accepting" god. It is not the basis for a belief that god does not exist. Yes thank you.

 

[Yorutenchi]

So you're a professional hairdresser with some authority when it comes to what is considered a "professional" hairdo or not?

I do not follow how this is relevant.

 

[Curious George]

It is the basis. It is the basis for "not accepting" god. It is not the basis for a belief that god does not exist. Yes thank you.

Sigh, I did not say it was the basis for a belief that god did not exist. I articulated very clearly a position of belief regarding whether god exists. A position you hold. Yet somehow you lack belief. Seems contradictory.

 

[Ouroboros]

I do not follow how this is relevant.

It's an analogy.

 

[Yorutenchi]

Sigh, I did not say it was the basis for a belief that god did not exist. I articulated very clearly a position of belief regarding whether god exists. A position you hold. Yet somehow you lack belief. Seems contradictory.

You articulated that I do not accept the concept of god. That is accurate.

 

[Yorutenchi]

It's an analogy.

Can you explain it? I am missing it somehow.

 

[Curious George]

You articulated that I do not accept the concept of god. That is accurate.

You believe that there is insufficient evidence to support a belief in god. You do not lack belief. This is a belief. You have it.

 

[Ouroboros]

Can you explain it? I am missing it somehow.

Bald people lack hairdos like atheists lack belief in God.

 

[Yorutenchi]

You believe that there is insufficient evidence to support a belief in god. You do not lack belief. This is a belief. You have it.

I believe that there is not sufficient evidence for god. Therefore I lack a belief in god.

Bald people lack hairdos like atheists lack belief in God.

I got that. What I didn't get was the part about being a hairdresser to have an opinion on a Mohawk.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

Militants are usually just hateful people whether they are atheist or not and quite a few of them have been harsh on believers. Article doesn't add up seeing how some of the greatest scientists of the past were religious or practiced magic and mysticism. And Atheism isn't a new thing either, as there were atheists in the past, they just weren't as common as they are now. There's a reason why they say "Religion without Science is blind and Science without Religion is lame" Both are needed in my opinion.

 

[Ouroboros]

I got that. What I didn't get was the part about being a hairdresser to have an opinion on a Mohawk.

It was in response to your comment: "I don't have to propose being bald to argue that Mohawks are unprofessional."

I took that as that you would argue that Mohawks are unprofessional. Well, if they're unprofessional you would have to be some kind of authority and professional in the area of hairdos. So then I just asked you if you would consider yourself a professional hairdresser or authority to being able to judge a Mohawk to be unprofessional. You don't have to answer that if you don't want to. It was just my rhetorical response to your Mohawk statement.

 

[Yorutenchi]

It was in response to your comment: "I don't have to propose being bald to argue that Mohawks are unprofessional."

I took that as that you would argue that Mohawks are unprofessional. Well, if they're unprofessional you would have to be some kind of authority and professional in the area of hairdos. So then I just asked you if you would consider yourself a professional hairdresser or authority to being able to judge a Mohawk to be unprofessional. You don't have to answer that if you don't want to. It was just my rhetorical response to your Mohawk statement.

I think that the analogy is getting stretched to far to become useful. I am saying I don't have to propose that there is no god to not have a belief in a god.