Allah & Jehovah in the Lotus Position...

[savethedreams]

Is God a Pacifist? Can God be a Pacifist?

I do practice buddhism,and interested in easter philosophy and at times African Kemet, but I do try to understand Abrahamic religions and their God , since I was raised a Christian. I am wondering how Hell is created/exist and God still is nonviolent/ pacifist?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Is God a Pacifist? Can God be a Pacifist?

I do practice buddhism,and interested in easter philosophy and at times African Kemet, but I do try to understand Abrahamic religions and their God , since I was raised a Christian. I am wondering how Hell is created/exist and God still is nonviolent/ pacifist?

I would say 'no'. Because he's on record as having killed (at all) and because he uses threats of violence & suffering to coerce our submission. That is not a non-violent approach.

 

[Thana]

Is God a Pacifist? Can God be a Pacifist?

I do practice buddhism,and interested in easter philosophy and at times African Kemet, but I do try to understand Abrahamic religions and their God , since I was raised a Christian. I am wondering how Hell is created/exist and God still is nonviolent/ pacifist?

Is God a pacifist? Uh, no. Especially since He kills people and has killed people many times.

But who would want a pacifist for a God in the world we live in?

 

[savethedreams]

Is God a pacifist? Uh, no. Especially since He kills people and has killed people many times.

But who would want a pacifist for a God in the world we live in?

hmmmm God can do anything, he can change the world we live in, and we still get to maintain our free will ......

 

[Thana]

hmmmm God can do anything, he can change the world we live in, and we still get to maintain our free will ......

He can change things if He wanted, but no we then wouldn't maintain our free will.

 

[savethedreams]

He can change things if He wanted, but no we then wouldn't maintain our free will.

We have free will but lack the ability to fly, teleport, have creation powers, or have certain emotions we can't experience. Colors we can't see, yet the belief is we have free will. Why Not lack of violence be one of those 'things' we never knew about like teleportion and colors we can't see?... What is the purpose.

 

[Thana]

We have free will but lack the ability to fly, teleport, have creation powers, or have certain emotions we can't experience. Colors we can't see, yet the belief is we have free will. Why Not lack of violence be one of those 'things' we never knew about like teleportion and colors we can't see?... What is the purpose.

Because all the bad things, including violence, have a purpose. Without them, not only would we not be able to recognize and appreciate what is good but we'd never be able to grow. And what kind of free will is that?

 

[savethedreams]

Because all the bad things, including violence, have a purpose. Without them, not only would we not be able to recognize and appreciate what is good but we'd never be able to grow. And what kind of free will is that?

The paradox still would stand, God would be a creator of all that there is, those includes emotions, feelings and experiences and opportunities for experiences.

The belief is: God create humans, which we didn't have a choice to be here or born, then he created laws/rules which we obey and allowed violence. He also allowed free will. We can appreciate without violence right? Why would God make it necessary for violence the only way one can appreciate... for that reason... why create 'appreciation"?

 

[Tumah]

Is God a Pacifist? Can God be a Pacifist?

I do practice buddhism,and interested in easter philosophy and at times African Kemet, but I do try to understand Abrahamic religions and their God , since I was raised a Christian. I am wondering how Hell is created/exist and God still is nonviolent/ pacifist?

No, G-d is not a pacifist. That's a ridiculous idea. An infinite G-d can't be a pacifist.

 

[Baladas]

No.
Allah and Jehovah/Yahweh do not seem to be pacifists.
At least not according to their holy books.

 

[DawudTalut]

Is God a Pacifist? Can God be a Pacifist?

I do practice buddhism,and interested in easter philosophy and at times African Kemet, but I do try to understand Abrahamic religions and their God , since I was raised a Christian. I am wondering how Hell is created/exist and God still is nonviolent/ pacifist?

Peace be on you.
Allah wants soul of people progress after they leave this mortal world. But if some people lack essential purity in Hereafter. They will be sent to workshop, corrective place, etc where they shall get some treatment then they shall be like newly born, they will be out to start spiritual progress. .....That corrective place is called Jahanum / Hell in Islam. According to Ahmadiyya Muslims, it will be difficult place but still temporary.

The Holy Quran does not teach that those in hell shall suffer everlasting torments.
Hell is meant for the advancement of weak human and their purification. There is no doubt that the abiding of evil-doers in hell is mentioned in some verses of the Holy Quran to be for "abad " which sometimes means prospective eternity, but " abad" also signifies a long time. And there are numerous passages in the Holy Quran showing that those in hell shall ultimately be taken out. Thus, in ch. 6: v. 129, the Quran says: "God said, Verily the fire is your resort to dwell therein unless thy Lord will it otherwise, verily, thy Lord is wise and knowing." On another occasion, those in hell are spoken of as "staying therein for years" (ch. 78: v. 23). The original word is "Ahqab" which is the plural of "huqub", meaning a year or years, or seventy or eighty years, or a long time (see Lanes Arabic Lexicon).
Ref: https://www.alislam.org/library/links/00000017.html

Moreover:

[ch101:v10] "Hell will be his (nursing) mother."
The words are "fa ummohu haviah"

So Hell has a purpose and it is to make weak soul to be able to get spiritual progresses.

 

[savethedreams]

Peace be on you.
Allah wants soul of people progress after they leave this mortal world. But if some people lack essential purity in Hereafter. They will be sent to workshop, corrective place, etc where they shall get some treatment then they shall be like newly born, they will be out to start spiritual progress. .....That corrective place is called Jahanum / Hell in Islam. According to Ahmadiyya Muslims, it will be difficult place but still temporary.

The Holy Quran does not teach that those in hell shall suffer everlasting torments.
Hell is meant for the advancement of weak human and their purification. There is no doubt that the abiding of evil-doers in hell is mentioned in some verses of the Holy Quran to be for "abad " which sometimes means prospective eternity, but " abad" also signifies a long time. And there are numerous passages in the Holy Quran showing that those in hell shall ultimately be taken out. Thus, in ch. 6: v. 129, the Quran says: "God said, Verily the fire is your resort to dwell therein unless thy Lord will it otherwise, verily, thy Lord is wise and knowing." On another occasion, those in hell are spoken of as "staying therein for years" (ch. 78: v. 23). The original word is "Ahqab" which is the plural of "huqub", meaning a year or years, or seventy or eighty years, or a long time (see Lanes Arabic Lexicon).
Ref: https://www.alislam.org/library/links/00000017.html

Moreover:

[ch101:v10] "Hell will be his (nursing) mother."
The words are "fa ummohu haviah"

So Hell has a purpose and it is to make weak soul to be able to get spiritual progresses.

This God has a lot of desires and feelings/emotions for himself and his creations. Sometimes I wonder where did his feelings all come from? Is this the reason why he created rules/laws/sin for only the human species... I feel sorry for him at times when I read about him emotions all of them..

 

[Baladas]

This God has a lot of desires and feelings/emotions for himself and his creations. Sometimes I wonder where did his feelings all come from? Is this the reason why he created rules/laws/sin for only the human species... I feel sorry for him at times when I read about him emotions all of them..

Indeed.
He sometimes appears (to me) to be a being of such primal emotion that He can hardly control Himself.
An example would be when Moses has to plead with Him not to slaughter all of the Israelites (and thus go back on His promises).
Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed and Moses was able to dissuade Him.

 

[DawudTalut]

This God has a lot of desires and feelings/emotions for himself and his creations. Sometimes I wonder where did his feelings all come from? Is this the reason why he created rules/laws/sin for only the human species... I feel sorry for him at times when I read about him emotions all of them..

Peace be on you.
This God can do what He likes to do in a shortest possible time but He gave choices in some areas and gave human teachings to live accordingly to get progress. Human are made to acquire God's image on human level by using that teaching.

There are some attributes which human cannot get however, e.g. Oneness. You may call God's emotions and feelings as attributes or names.

If God does not feel, that God will be non-alive.

 

[PackJason]

The Abrahamic god is a jealous god. (It's right in the Ten Commandments)

What a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient being has to jealous of, I have no idea.