Allah, Yahweh, or Jehovah

[rosends]

Muhammadim is same Muhammad

First, the word isn't Muhammadim, but Machmadim. And second, no, no, it isn't the same. And Naomi isn't the same as Na'im.

In hebrew they add at the end of every name " im

Like genesis 10 and many others

אתH853 לודיםH3866ואתH853 ענמיםH6047ואתH853 להביםH3853ואתH853 נפתחים׃H5320

Really? LIke Yitzchak? Or Ya'kov, or Yoself, or Yehudah? It is sill to tell someone who actually has a name in Hebrew which doesn't end in -im what "they" do in Hebrew.

Song of Solomon predict some one will come named muhamad . He not exist in that point .

Actually, no, that's not at all what is said there. It isn't a prophecy. It isn't the name.

About your claims prophet father plan
To name him Muhammad

There are many other named their kids Muhammad as well

They were Arab pagan . They didn't read old testonemy which written in Hebrew .


You claims mean they plan to help their son toclaim prophecy .

Or, they liked the word and it has nothing to do with prophecy. What's amazing is that you just said "even one of his ancestors as Muhamad you will not find" and then here you say "
There are many other named their kids Muhammad as well"

 

[life.period]

Decisions, decisions.
I don't which is the better response -

or

I guess the only answer is to use both. Because you've earned both.

Congratulations.

No
First one is word of god and law of god

You enter heaven by following god law not human

Second one " current is human rule

They omit god words and added they own rule

 

[life.period]

First, the word isn't Muhammadim, but Machmadim. And second, no, no, it isn't the same. And Naomi isn't the same as Na'im.

Really? LIke Yitzchak? Or Ya'kov, or Yoself, or Yehudah? It is sill to tell someone who actually has a name in Hebrew which doesn't end in -im what "they" do in Hebrew.



Actually, no, that's not at all what is said there. It isn't a prophecy. It isn't the name.


Or, they liked the word and it has nothing to do with prophecy. What's amazing is that you just said "even one of his ancestors as Muhamad you will not find" and then here you say "
There are many other named their kids Muhammad as well"

I said some words not all

Don't assume things

There is no Jews named muhamdim

It is Arabic name

Do you want to claim Abram and Abraham are not same

Sarai is not same Sarah .

Then muhamadim same muhamad

 

[rosends]

I said some words not all

actually, what you said was "In hebrew they add at the end of every name " im" so you didn't say "some" you said "every."

Don't assume things

Don't say things that are demonstrably false.

There is no Jews named muhamdim

It is Arabic name

Exactly! So Solomon could NOT have been using it as a name. You just disproved yourself. Well done.

Do you want to claim Abram and Abraham are not same

Sarai is not same Sarah .

I never said that. Why would you even bring that up?

 

[life.period]

actually, what you said was "In hebrew they add at the end of every name " im" so you didn't say "some" you said "every."

Don't say things that are demonstrably false.

Exactly! So Solomon could NOT have been using it as a name. You just disproved yourself. Well done.

I never said that. Why would you even bring that up?

I didn't mean every word

Maybe I wrote in rush

It consider as suffix

Solomon didn't use name muhamad

Lines describ man coming not exist on that point

God said to Abraham in genesis

Your name will be no longer Abram but Abraham

Sarai will be Sarah

Sarai is Hebrew and Sarah is Arabic


God say he will talk to them with other tongue which mean another language

In Isaiah " burden upon Arabia

So god will talk to them in Arabic through holly Qur'an .

 

[rosends]

I didn't mean every word

So you didn't say what you said. Got it.

Maybe I wrote in rush

Or just in error

It consider as suffix

It is a grammatical suffix. Not one used in naming.

Solomon didn't use name muhamad

Perfect. Thanks! I'll tell all the people who claim that Muhammad is named in the text that you say he isn't.

Lines describ man coming not exist on that point

Actually, the female speaker in 5:16 is describing her lover. There is no mention of this as a prophecy.

God said to Abraham in genesis

Your name will be no longer Abram but Abraham

Sarai will be Sarah

Sarai is Hebrew and Sarah is Arabic

That's a strange and unrelated claim. That God chose to change their names from Hebrew to Arabic in a Hebrew text by adding a Hebrew letter. Bizarre. I'll pass. Your claims get stranger and stranger. I'll just wait until you backtrack again and decide you didn't mean what you wrote.

 

[life.period]

So you didn't say what you said. Got it.

Or just in error

It is a grammatical suffix. Not one used in naming.

Perfect. Thanks! I'll tell all the people who claim that Muhammad is named in the text that you say he isn't.

Actually, the female speaker in 5:16 is describing her lover. There is no mention of this as a prophecy.

That's a strange and unrelated claim. That God chose to change their names from Hebrew to Arabic in a Hebrew text by adding a Hebrew letter. Bizarre. I'll pass. Your claims get stranger and stranger. I'll just wait until you backtrack again and decide you didn't mean what you wrote.

If it is bizarre it nentioned in your book

Genesis 17:5 ►
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No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations.


Father of many nations

Prophecy from paran where Ishmael lived ..


That lover not exist on that time someone will come

Like bible it describes parkelotes

It was not exist on that point of time
But someone coming .

Suffix letters added to the end of the words same .

 

[metis]

Good question

Proven by Their book .

Old testonemy mentioned Moses prophet asked jews to keep Torah
And save it .

That mean mean Torah brought by mosa while current one written after mosa time peace be upon him .

Ask any Jews or christian

Did this Torah belong to mosa he will say no


Here revelation 22

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll.
If anyone adds anything to them);">God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.

Scroll : Torah

It written in scroll

note : who will change scroll
Will fall in disaster.


Also Moses predict they will corrupt and fall in disaster

Deuteronomy 31:29 ►
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For I know that after my death you are sure to become utterly corrupt and to turn from the way I have commanded you. In days to come, disaster will fall on you because you will do evil in the sight of the LORD and arouse his anger by what your hands have made."



Disaster they fall : god spare them no longer .. four kingdom possess earth and " destruction temple "



Jeremiah 8:8 prove corruption scroll

Jeremiah 8:8 ►
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"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?


Since there is true Torah brought by mosa and not exist any more that mean it is hidden some where.

Several scrolls found

You can search in Google..

In Qur'an also mentioned they corrupt torah

You literally have no clue what you're talking about and have been very effectively brainwashed into believing that which in no logical way can be verified. Come back when you have some objectively-derived evidence that you can share.

 

[leibowde84]

Allah, Yahweh, or Jehovah. Which one and why?

These are all the same God; the God of Abraham.

 

[leibowde84]

Allah, Yahweh, or Jehovah. Which one and why?

Or are you asking what word/name for that God is better? Because, that seems like it would be merely subjective and seemingly unimportant.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Or are you asking what word/name for that God is better? Because, that seems like it would be merely subjective and seemingly unimportant.

When I'm not Billiards Ball, I have a given "Christian name" as we say in the West, as well as a nickname, as well as a Hebrew name. I particularly like the sound of my name, as do many persons.

I think it totally matters whether we call the divine "God", which by some accounts is a crummy transmogrification of a German word for chief honcho, or call God by His Name, which Name means something. All names mean something, like "farmer" or "God is my judge" or "Gift of God" or "Son of Robert" and so on.

The God of Abraham has a name, and insists His name be treated appropriately. So it does matter IMHO.

 

[leibowde84]

When I'm not Billiards Ball, I have a given "Christian name" as we say in the West, as well as a nickname, as well as a Hebrew name. I particularly like the sound of my name, as do many persons.

I think it totally matters whether we call the divine "God", which by some accounts is a crummy transmogrification of a German word for chief honcho, or call God by His Name, which Name means something. All names mean something, like "farmer" or "God is my judge" or "Gift of God" or "Son of Robert" and so on.

The God of Abraham has a name, and insists His name be treated appropriately. So it does matter IMHO.

Where does he insist that the name be used? In the Bible is he not referred to by 4 different names (the father, yaweh, Lord, God)? I can't find anywhere that he insists upon one or the other?

 

[RabbiO]

Where does he insist that the name be used? In the Bible is he not referred to by 4 different names (the father, yaweh, Lord, God)? I can't find anywhere that he insists upon one or the other?

B.B. would probably point you to Exodus 3:15.

 

[leibowde84]

B.B. would probably point you to Exodus 3:15.

1. God is referred to as both "God" and "Jehovah" in that passage.
2. God does not insist that is what he is to be referred to as. He simply identifies himself that way and says it will be his "memorial".

 

[BilliardsBall]

1. God is referred to as both "God" and "Jehovah" in that passage.
2. God does not insist that is what he is to be referred to as. He simply identifies himself that way and says it will be his "memorial".

I appreciate my names including BB, dad, uncle, hubby, etc.

Do you know the commandment as "Don't take the Lord's names in vain" or in the singular? Therefore, this thread.

 

[leibowde84]

I appreciate my names including BB, dad, uncle, hubby, etc.

Do you know the commandment as "Don't take the Lord's names in vain" or in the singular? Therefore, this thread.

I know the commandment don't take the Lords name in vain. Where does it say anything about "the singular"?

 

[BilliardsBall]

I know the commandment don't take the Lords name in vain. Where does it say anything about "the singular"?

You are saying the Lord's name can be any of several names or titles in the scriptures. What about the Decalogue has led you to believe it says, "Do not take any of the Lord's names in vain" rather than the singular?

 

[leibowde84]

You are saying the Lord's name can be any of several names or titles in the scriptures. What about the Decalogue has led you to believe it says, "Do not take any of the Lord's names in vain" rather than the singular?

Because God is referred to by many names in both the old and new testaments.

 

[metis]

You are saying the Lord's name can be any of several names or titles in the scriptures. What about the Decalogue has led you to believe it says, "Do not take any of the Lord's names in vain" rather than the singular?

If my memory is correct, I believe there are around 17 different names for God used in the Tanakh.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Because God is referred to by many names in both the old and new testaments.

I understand your viewpoint. But I asked you if there is something in the Decalogue that led you to plural usage. But if you have something in the Tanakh that helps me understand that Exodus 20 says, "Don't take the Lord's multiple names in vain," I'm open-minded.