Allergies and Other Proofs Against God

[Paraprakrti]

What kind of sick deity would create people in such a way that they are allergic to the planet wherein there were born? I mean, really! Case in point, I am allergic to grass, pollen, mold, trees and nature in general as well as having wonderful food allergies to such harmful things as melons, bananas, nuts (but not peanuts), fish (but not shellfish), tomatoes and pretty much everything except chocolate and Dr. Pepper.

And there are people with far worse allergies - some of them potentially fatal.

It is my contention that no deity in his/her right mind would torture people thus.

I'd love to say more but I am going to go pray to Saint Benadryl...

This expectation that God would create a world free of suffering is odd to me. I know the typical argument is that if God is omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, then suffering shouldn't exist, but in actuality, it is creation itself that shouldn't exist. Such a perfect and self-sufficient God necessarily has no interest in things that are not eternal. Creation implies something inferior to eternity and thus inferior to the perfection that is free from suffering. So the REAL question is: why does God create AT ALL? If it is not upon God's sole consideration to create, then there are others who are also eternal that desire such a world. Blame them. (Note: you're one of them.)

 

[logician]

There is no god. Allergies are part of nature. Homo sapiens is about the third stand deviation out in the path of evolution.

 

[Vile Atheist]

There is no god.

Care to back up that positive claim?

 

[richardlowellt]

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QUOTE=ContentiusMaximus;1692776]Care to back up that positive claim?

[/QUOTE]Shame on you, questioning another Atheists on the existence of this mythical being. When a myriad of questions about his/her/its/ existence come up zero, when every possible avenue is explored for evidence to support this being comes up blank, then I think a positive claim about its non-existence can be made.

And yes I know, one cannot prove empirically that this being does not exist, we have covered that in a previous thread, but I simply do not believe that all things are possible.

 

[Vile Atheist]

Shame on you, questioning another Atheists on the existence of this mythical being. When a myriad of questions about his/her/its/ existence come up zero, when every possible avenue is explored for evidence to support this being comes up blank, then I think a positive claim about its non-existence can be made.

And yes I know, one cannot prove empirically that this being does not exist, we have covered that in a previous thread, but I simply do not believe that all things are possible.

I am not going to let the burden of proof on anyone slip. I don't care if they are Christian or Atheist. I agree with you that I don't think it's possible or probable for God to exist, but this is something - as you've already stated - we cannot conclusively prove or disprove.

For another matter, what one atheist says to a theist is going to reflect on what I say to that same theist. It introduces presuppositions about what I think or don't think is true. Thus, it gets hard to argue when that theist is set in stone, thinking I have beliefs on things I don't actually have.

I have no problem with a positive claim being made that "God doesn't exist", so long as that person acknowledges that they cannot conclusively prove that and it's a statement of belief and faith, not of empirical fact. I expect the same of theists who do claim God exists.

 

[slave2six]

I am not going to let the burden of proof on anyone slip. I don't care if they are Christian or Atheist. I agree with you that I don't think it's possible or probable for God to exist, but this is something - as you've already stated - we cannot conclusively prove or disprove.

There is no way for you to disprove that I have never given you a wedgie, therefore I have.

 

[Vile Atheist]

There is no way for you to disprove that I have never given you a wedgie, therefore I have.

Except that's not at all what I'm claiming. Nice try, though.

The inability to disprove something does not mean it is a proven fact. I don't know where you got that from when I explicitly said:

I am not going to let the burden of proof on anyone slip. I don't care if they are Christian or Atheist. I agree with you that I don't think it's possible or probable for God to exist, but this is something - as you've already stated - we cannot conclusively prove or disprove.

That's even exactly what you quoted.