Am I in danger of eternal Hellfire?

[Spiderman]

So, I accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior. The reason being, the worst thing he did in my opinion is whip some people. I have been stabbed with pencils and prison shanks, punched many times, broken bones, and various other injuries, so I don't really care much if someone whips me. I'm sure it isn't that bad, and we don't actually know if he inflicted much injury on anyone during that outburst of anger.

So, we should not whip people, unless your partner needs it to get off. But it isn't that bad imo

Another thing that Jesus did that p**ses me off, is he said things that make people think, non-Christians go to Hell forever. That is psychopathic, cruel, sadistic, vicious nonsense, and a huge insult to God!

According to the New Testament, I'll actually go to heaven most likely. Check this out:

Matt 25
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

That part about everlasting punishment is stupid if it means everlasting torture. I don't want to spend eternity worshiping a cruel psychopath. But I volunteered in the ghetto of Saint Lukes Mission of mercy where I gave Jesus food and clothing.

I gave Jesus money. I showed kindness to Jesus in other ways by caring for a dementia patient, feeding the hungry at a Franciscan Friary, volunteering in nursing homes, and at the humane society.

I try to be kind to people, and love my enemies. I even love ISIS fighters and Taliban. I just hate what they do and believe they should quickly be put out of their misery.

Romans 13:8-10 New International Version (NIV)
Love Fulfills the Law"
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”' and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”' 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law

So, I'm all about love baby!

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Okay, so I'm cool with all that. It looks like I'm saved! But I'm not going to approve of the Bible when every fiber of my being tells me that some of it is extremely ****ed up and misleading! I can't oppose Theocracies like Saudi-Arabia, while at the same time stating, "The Bible is without error", which promotes similar harsh policies.

So, when Scripture doesn't violate the golden rule and doesn't have every appearance of being asinine, I'm okay with it.

I like the Rosary, studied Marian apparitions, and pray to Mary and other souls in Heaven. Some Christians think this is evil, but every Christian Church on earth was doing it century after century for over a thousand years before the man-made invention of Protestantism condemned the practice.

Nothing in the New Testament condemns the practice, and in fact, the Old Testament didn't either. The Old Testament condemned the summoning of spirits from Sheol and holding Seances. This is because there is the possibility of summoning an evil spirit. This practice is different than calling on a heavenly being for help. But chances are, these Christians don't even follow the Old Testament, or they would stone adulterers and people who work on Sabbath, so they should stop using an outdated text to condemn anyone.

But some Christians think I will go to hell for asking souls in Heaven to help me. Ah well! I also study and practice some of Shintoism, and some Christians think I'm a satanic cesspit for doing so.

But I do make fun of God. I also make fun of my biological Dad, despite loving him dearly at the same. I'll say blasphemous things when the law of charity tells me God doesn't follow his own law, and is very unkind to people. I think God's decision to remain silent, and leave so many people confused and in agony, is thoroughly disgusting! Unless of course, God is a weakling and unable to do anything because his hands are tied, then it's not the poor, hopeless wonder's fault afterall!

Muslims usually think I will go to Hell if I reject "The messenger of Allah". I oppose "the messenger of Allah" with every fiber of my being, and think he possibly harmed our world more than any other person to exist.
Here is what will happen to me:

Quran 5:33- “The punishment of those who oppose Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

(22:19)
But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads

So, I don't love a God who does that to my worst enemy. Just put people out of their misery quickly if it is necessary. Any torture or mutilation is unwarranted, cruel, and psychopathic imo. A Muslim told me, those tortures are curative and purifying. Allah will only cut off my hands and feet, douse me with boiling water, crucify me, or burn me because he loves me and must cure me of my wickedness (its like surgery).

If that is who God is, it is a terrible thing to have been born for many of us. I don't think any compassionate person wants to spend an eternity worshipping a cruel, vicious, sadistic psycho!

Also, the opinion that those tortures are only temporary isn't supported in the Scriptures, and many people believe the tortures are eternal. So, who knows if either of them are correct.

Some Christians just believe I'll be tossed into a lake of fire and cease to exist. I'm in many ways okay with that, because I don't want to exist for ever, if I don't find the God I'm worshipping for eternity to even be likeable!

What is your opinion of the afterlife and hell, and where do you think I'd go if I died today, knowing what you know? Where would you go if you died today?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

As far as I know, it's into the ground for you, worm food. But I've never died, so I can't really say for sure.

 

[Frater Sisyphus]

Sure, why not? we're all going there anyway, even Yahweh is gonna feel the flame someday, might be entertaining

 

[Dawnofhope]

So, I accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior. The reason being, the worst thing he did in my opinion is whip some people. I have been stabbed with pencils and prison shanks, punched many times, broken bones, and various other injuries, so I don't really care much if someone whips me. I'm sure it isn't that bad, and we don't actually know if he inflicted much injury on anyone during that outburst of anger.

So, we should not whip people, unless your partner needs it to get off. But it isn't that bad imo

Another thing that Jesus did that p**ses me off, is he said things that make people think, non-Christians go to Hell forever. That is psychopathic, cruel, sadistic, vicious nonsense, and a huge insult to God!

According to the New Testament, I'll actually go to heaven most likely. Check this out:

Matt 25
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

That part about everlasting punishment is stupid if it means everlasting torture. I don't want to spend eternity worshiping a cruel psychopath. But I volunteered in the ghetto of Saint Lukes Mission of mercy where I gave Jesus food and clothing.

I gave Jesus money. I showed kindness to Jesus in other ways by caring for a dementia patient, feeding the hungry at a Franciscan Friary, volunteering in nursing homes, and at the humane society.

I try to be kind to people, and love my enemies. I even love ISIS fighters and Taliban. I just hate what they do and believe they should quickly be put out of their misery.

Romans 13:8-10 New International Version (NIV)
Love Fulfills the Law"
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”' and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”' 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law

So, I'm all about love baby!

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Okay, so I'm cool with all that. It looks like I'm saved! But I'm not going to approve of the Bible when every fiber of my being tells me that some of it is extremely ****ed up and misleading! I can't oppose Theocracies like Saudi-Arabia, while at the same time stating, "The Bible is without error", which promotes similar harsh policies.

So, when Scripture doesn't violate the golden rule and doesn't have every appearance of being asinine, I'm okay with it.

I like the Rosary, studied Marian apparitions, and pray to Mary and other souls in Heaven. Some Christians think this is evil, but every Christian Church on earth was doing it century after century for over a thousand years before the man-made invention of Protestantism condemned the practice.

Nothing in the New Testament condemns the practice, and in fact, the Old Testament didn't either. The Old Testament condemned the summoning of spirits from Sheol and holding Seances. This is because there is the possibility of summoning an evil spirit. This practice is different than calling on a heavenly being for help. But chances are, these Christians don't even follow the Old Testament, or they would stone adulterers and people who work on Sabbath, so they should stop using an outdated text to condemn anyone.

But some Christians think I will go to hell for asking souls in Heaven to help me. Ah well! I also study and practice some of Shintoism, and some Christians think I'm a satanic cesspit for doing so.

But I do make fun of God. I also make fun of my biological Dad, despite loving him dearly at the same. I'll say blasphemous things when the law of charity tells me God doesn't follow his own law, and is very unkind to people. I think God's decision to remain silent, and leave so many people confused and in agony, is thoroughly disgusting! Unless of course, God is a weakling and unable to do anything because his hands are tied, then it's not the poor, hopeless wonder's fault afterall!

Muslims usually think I will go to Hell if I reject "The messenger of Allah". I oppose "the messenger of Allah" with every fiber of my being, and think he possibly harmed our world more than any other person to exist.
Here is what will happen to me:

Quran 5:33- “The punishment of those who oppose Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

(22:19)
But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads

So, I don't love a God who does that to my worst enemy. Just put people out of their misery quickly if it is necessary. Any torture or mutilation is unwarranted, cruel, and psychopathic imo. A Muslim told me, those tortures are curative and purifying. Allah will only cut off my hands and feet, douse me with boiling water, crucify me, or burn me because he loves me and must cure me of my wickedness (its like surgery).

If that is who God is, it is a terrible thing to have been born for many of us. I don't think any compassionate person wants to spend an eternity worshipping a cruel, vicious, sadistic psycho!

Also, the opinion that those tortures are only temporary isn't supported in the Scriptures, and many people believe the tortures are eternal. So, who knows if either of them are correct.

Some Christians just believe I'll be tossed into a lake of fire and cease to exist. I'm in many ways okay with that, because I don't want to exist for ever, if I don't find the God I'm worshipping for eternity to even be likeable!

What is your opinion of the afterlife and hell, and where do you think I'd go if I died today, knowing what you know? Where would you go if you died today?

It’s for God to judge what happens when we die, not for us to judge each other.

Matthew 7:1-4

What God requires of us in the life changes from age to age but become clear with study of sacred writings.

 

[Katzpur]

I just thought it odd that pretty much all of your options involved you somehow getting punished. I voted, "PopeADope will be tortured, but it will purify him, cure him of his wickedness, not be eternal!" but that's really not an accurate description of what I believe. The part that made me decide to vote the way I did was the "not be eternal" part. Sure, I think repentance of our sins is going to be necessary (and I believe that can happen even after we die) and to a certain extent I think we will be tormented by them until we do. On the other hand, I see you as someone who believes in Jesus Christ and in His atoning sacrifice, so I don't really see you having to endure much "torture" as He took the sins you've repented of upon Himself and has already paid the price for them. I don't believe anybody goes to Heaven immediately after death, but I don't believe in Purgatory either. LDS theology on this includes a post-mortal existence in either Paradise or in the Spirit Prison until the time comes for the resurrection and the last judgment. Also, it's probably significant that I don't believe that torture is what will purify us or cure us of our wickedness. I believe that repentance and turning to Christ is what will do that and that this can happen after death. I mean, that's it in a nutshell. I could elaborate more, but will only do so if people have any questions.

 

[Spiderman]

I just thought it odd that pretty much all of your options involved you somehow getting punished. I voted, "PopeADope will be tortured, but it will purify him, cure him of his wickedness, not be eternal!" but that's really not an accurate description of what I believe. The part that made me decide to vote the way I did was the "not be eternal" part. Sure, I think repentance of our sins is going to be necessary (and I believe that can happen even after we die) and to a certain extent I think we will be tormented by them until we do. On the other hand, I see you as someone who believes in Jesus Christ and in His atoning sacrifice, so I don't really see you having to endure much "torture" as He took the sins you've repented of upon Himself and has already paid the price for them. I don't believe anybody goes to Heaven immediately after death, but I don't believe in Purgatory either. LDS theology on this includes a post-mortal existence in either Paradise or in the Spirit Prison until the time comes for the resurrection and the last judgment. Also, it's probably significant that I don't believe that torture is what will purify us or cure us of our wickedness. I believe that repentance and turning to Christ is what will do that and that this can happen after death. I mean, that's it in a nutshell. I could elaborate more, but will only do so if people have any questions.

Yeah... I guess I forgot to add "PopeADope will go staight to Heaven" as an option, or a way to heaven that didn't involve torture of some sort. I'm sure I'm just not ready to go to heaven, but hopefully not evil enough for hell.

I figure I need some purification and penance for my sins.

So, I like your idea of a holding cell of sorts, where I am given the fullness of truth, purified, and perfected, right?

 

[Frater Sisyphus]

I associate fire with purification, perfection, beauty and passion. No wonder so much poetry is dedicated to the image of fire being something that burns in ones heart towards something. It is also a very transformative element in Alchemy.
I don't see much value in the orthodox interpretation of "Hell", on many levels it doesn't make sense.

(yes, on the other side of the coin, Fire does cause destruction if not maintained, obviously)

I think there is a state of mind, where man is 'separate from God' and his/her own moral compass, their own dignity is crushed - where one fails themselves immensely - a very real form of "Hell".

But the fire/brimstone concept I think is a separate idea, as stated above.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

So, I accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior. The reason being, the worst thing he did in my opinion is whip some people. I have been stabbed with pencils and prison shanks, punched many times, broken bones, and various other injuries, so I don't really care much if someone whips me. I'm sure it isn't that bad, and we don't actually know if he inflicted much injury on anyone during that outburst of anger.

So, we should not whip people, unless your partner needs it to get off. But it isn't that bad imo

Another thing that Jesus did that p**ses me off, is he said things that make people think, non-Christians go to Hell forever. That is psychopathic, cruel, sadistic, vicious nonsense, and a huge insult to God!

According to the New Testament, I'll actually go to heaven most likely. Check this out:

Matt 25
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

That part about everlasting punishment is stupid if it means everlasting torture. I don't want to spend eternity worshiping a cruel psychopath. But I volunteered in the ghetto of Saint Lukes Mission of mercy where I gave Jesus food and clothing.

I gave Jesus money. I showed kindness to Jesus in other ways by caring for a dementia patient, feeding the hungry at a Franciscan Friary, volunteering in nursing homes, and at the humane society.

I try to be kind to people, and love my enemies. I even love ISIS fighters and Taliban. I just hate what they do and believe they should quickly be put out of their misery.

Romans 13:8-10 New International Version (NIV)
Love Fulfills the Law"
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”' and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”' 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law

So, I'm all about love baby!

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Okay, so I'm cool with all that. It looks like I'm saved! But I'm not going to approve of the Bible when every fiber of my being tells me that some of it is extremely ****ed up and misleading! I can't oppose Theocracies like Saudi-Arabia, while at the same time stating, "The Bible is without error", which promotes similar harsh policies.

So, when Scripture doesn't violate the golden rule and doesn't have every appearance of being asinine, I'm okay with it.

I like the Rosary, studied Marian apparitions, and pray to Mary and other souls in Heaven. Some Christians think this is evil, but every Christian Church on earth was doing it century after century for over a thousand years before the man-made invention of Protestantism condemned the practice.

Nothing in the New Testament condemns the practice, and in fact, the Old Testament didn't either. The Old Testament condemned the summoning of spirits from Sheol and holding Seances. This is because there is the possibility of summoning an evil spirit. This practice is different than calling on a heavenly being for help. But chances are, these Christians don't even follow the Old Testament, or they would stone adulterers and people who work on Sabbath, so they should stop using an outdated text to condemn anyone.

But some Christians think I will go to hell for asking souls in Heaven to help me. Ah well! I also study and practice some of Shintoism, and some Christians think I'm a satanic cesspit for doing so.

But I do make fun of God. I also make fun of my biological Dad, despite loving him dearly at the same. I'll say blasphemous things when the law of charity tells me God doesn't follow his own law, and is very unkind to people. I think God's decision to remain silent, and leave so many people confused and in agony, is thoroughly disgusting! Unless of course, God is a weakling and unable to do anything because his hands are tied, then it's not the poor, hopeless wonder's fault afterall!

Muslims usually think I will go to Hell if I reject "The messenger of Allah". I oppose "the messenger of Allah" with every fiber of my being, and think he possibly harmed our world more than any other person to exist.
Here is what will happen to me:

Quran 5:33- “The punishment of those who oppose Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

(22:19)
But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads

So, I don't love a God who does that to my worst enemy. Just put people out of their misery quickly if it is necessary. Any torture or mutilation is unwarranted, cruel, and psychopathic imo. A Muslim told me, those tortures are curative and purifying. Allah will only cut off my hands and feet, douse me with boiling water, crucify me, or burn me because he loves me and must cure me of my wickedness (its like surgery).

If that is who God is, it is a terrible thing to have been born for many of us. I don't think any compassionate person wants to spend an eternity worshipping a cruel, vicious, sadistic psycho!

Also, the opinion that those tortures are only temporary isn't supported in the Scriptures, and many people believe the tortures are eternal. So, who knows if either of them are correct.

Some Christians just believe I'll be tossed into a lake of fire and cease to exist. I'm in many ways okay with that, because I don't want to exist for ever, if I don't find the God I'm worshipping for eternity to even be likeable!

What is your opinion of the afterlife and hell, and where do you think I'd go if I died today, knowing what you know? Where would you go if you died today?

Sorry, bruh. But you're going to hell on the count of the whole Exodus 20:3 and Luke 16:13. I know you practice other religions and I have nothing against that, but if we follow the whole hell and torment path of Christianity then yeha your going to hell. Good news I'll be there with ya bud. Make sure to save me a seat.

 

[Spiderman]

I just thought it odd that pretty much all of your options involved you somehow getting punished. I voted, "PopeADope will be tortured, but it will purify him, cure him of his wickedness, not be eternal!" but that's really not an accurate description of what I believe. The part that made me decide to vote the way I did was the "not be eternal" part. Sure, I think repentance of our sins is going to be necessary (and I believe that can happen even after we die) and to a certain extent I think we will be tormented by them until we do. On the other hand, I see you as someone who believes in Jesus Christ and in His atoning sacrifice, so I don't really see you having to endure much "torture" as He took the sins you've repented of upon Himself and has already paid the price for them. I don't believe anybody goes to Heaven immediately after death, but I don't believe in Purgatory either. LDS theology on this includes a post-mortal existence in either Paradise or in the Spirit Prison until the time comes for the resurrection and the last judgment. Also, it's probably significant that I don't believe that torture is what will purify us or cure us of our wickedness. I believe that repentance and turning to Christ is what will do that and that this can happen after death. I mean, that's it in a nutshell. I could elaborate more, but will only do so if people have any questions.

I just figure, being the blasphemers that I am, and despising much of the Bible, and resenting God for the suffering and confusion in the world, im kind of an enemy of God in some ways.

So, according to most Abrahamic traditions, i will suffer for my sins.

The Catholic view on purgatory is that the suffering there is great, but the souls in purgatory have a joy that is greater than any joy they had on Earth.

The idea of joyful torture is kind of weird, but i have experienced joy in jail or bedridden at the hospital, and experienced suffering that seemed to humble me, bring me closer to God, give me new insights about compassion and charity towards others.

And I assume in purgatory, there is great joy knowing that they will be perfected and enter heaven. If such a place or spiritual condition exists, that is.

 

[osgart]

I dont believe in heaven or hell nor purgatory, but if i had to make a call on it, you and everyone, me included is definetly in purgatory, and the afterlife just might be pure fantasy.

If there is an afterlife it will be something wierd and indifferent to justice, something that mirrors this existence. Or something out of a doctor strange movie.

Purgatory does give options though, worse, or better. Everyone has that choice, but once someone starts down the dark path, it usually takes punishment to reform them. Absence is appreciation. The absence of good is punishment.

This place being purgatory is also a type of hell for the unfortunate, the innocent, and the wicked, it dont discriminate.

I aint your judge though. You might know better then all of rf on the matter. What can anybody truly say about someone from mere posts? Other than intelligence, wit, and personality, probably not much about their hearts.

 

[Spiderman]

Sorry, bruh. But you're going to hell on the count of the whole Exodus 20:3 and Luke 16:13. I know you practice other religions and I have nothing against that, but if we follow the whole hell and torment path of Christianity then yeha your going to hell. Good news I'll be there with ya bud. Make sure to save me a seat.

In that case, I'll see you in hell!

I hope i get to wear a speedo! I hear it's hot where we are headed!

 

[Katzpur]

Yeah... I guess I forgot to add "PopeADope will go staight to Heaven" as an option, or a way to heaven that didn't involve torture of some sort. I'm sure I'm just not ready to go to heaven, but hopefully not evil enough for hell.

I figure I need some purification and penance for my sins.

So, I like your idea of a holding cell of sorts, where I am given the fullness of truth, purified, and perfected, right?

More or less, I guess.

 

[`mud]

Oh, I know the answer already.....join you in the Cosmos, just your Spirit, leave your body behind.
I don't think you have to take your cognizance, your sense of humor will do.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I voted "other": PopeADope will have an interstellar team of misfits and travel through the galaxy having adventures.

The reason being, the worst thing he did in my opinion is whip some people. I have been stabbed with pencils and prison shanks, punched many times, broken bones, and various other injuries, so I don't really care much if someone whips me. I'm sure it isn't that bad, and we don't actually know if he inflicted much injury on anyone during that outburst of anger.

I guess that's one way to look at it.

But I'm not going to approve of the Bible when every fiber of my being tells me that some of it is extremely ****ed up and misleading! I can't oppose Theocracies like Saudi-Arabia, while at the same time stating, "The Bible is without error", which promotes similar harsh policies.

The bible was written by a bunch of angry snowflakes insecure in their own skin.

Some Christians think this is evil, but every Christian Church on earth was doing it century after century for over a thousand years before the man-made invention of Protestantism condemned the practice.

Ritual, as Jesus and someone else, maybe Samuel, noted, is about helping us cope. God doesn't really need it. He got by without it throughout all of pre-human existence. As long as it helps you without distracting you, you do you.

In other words, once you think a ritual will end the universe if it doesn't happen, the ritual has taken on a pathological sense of importance. Everyone has their rituals. I'm not much into them, but I must admit I have my own, even if they mostly are just silent things I do. I'm not the ostentatious type, LOL.

But some Christians think I will go to hell for asking souls in Heaven to help me.

In my dreams about heaven, fictional people exist too, since in heaven (or in hell), being "real" is irrelevant. If you want to have a conversation with Ariel and King Kai and He-Man, it can happen in a state of being where physical constraints are all in your head.

But I do make fun of God.

Worship shouldn't be confused with blind butt-kissing. Friends don't let friends drive drunk. That kind of thing. If God is such a snowflake He can't handle some light ribbing, He doesn't deserve His rank.

Muslims usually think I will go to Hell if I reject "The messenger of Allah". I oppose "the messenger of Allah" with every fiber of my being, and think he possibly harmed our world more than any other person to exist.

I accept him as much as I accept the others. Take that how you will.

Sure, Jesus didn't do the things Muhammad did, but Jesus also got snuffed out shortly after having his temper tantrum with a whip. Had he lived longer, we can't say he wouldn't graduate to warmongering. He was already having anger control issues. Warmongering starts the second you begin to feel you have to hurt or kill others to "make a point".

I just figure, being the blasphemers that I am, and despising much of the Bible, and resenting God for the suffering and confusion in the world, im kind of an enemy of God in some ways.

Only if God is the bible.

So, according to most Abrahamic traditions, i will suffer for my sins.

That's because the idea that people believe in God's grace is a farce. No they don't. They NEED to see certain things happen.

I mean, I want my father to burn in hell to my standards or I shall march down to hell and destroy it and mail God Satan's intestines.

But I'm not in charge.

Besides, I would expect a real deity to have more evolved thinking than I do.

 

[Miracle]

What is your opinion of the afterlife and hell, and where do you think I'd go if I died today, knowing what you know? Where would you go if you died today?

From most of what I read, you would not make it into heaven if you were to die today. Your response gives us a picture of who you are and your mindset in regards to God. There were many things I could touch upon, but because I didn't read all of it, so I'll just comment on the ones I did read.

the worst thing he did in my opinion is whip some people.

It is unwise to jump to the conclusion that Jesus whipped anyone especially because it doesn't say Jesus Christ did.

during that outburst of anger

According to the Bible, anger is not a sin (Ephesians 4:26). Being angry and unforgiving is a very different story.

he said things that make people think, non-Christians go to Hell forever. That is psychopathic, cruel, sadistic, vicious nonsense, and a huge insult to God!

From your response here, clearly reveals the condition of your heart that you are not a changed man at all. You are not saved, however, it doesn't mean you can not be. So long as you are alive, there is still time to mend your ways. And Jesus Christ spoke the truth. As expected, the truth is too painful and many are not able to handle it well. Jesus Christ, who is the "the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6) would know best since he is the truth and he and God are one (John 10:30). For you to separate Jesus Christ as purely man instead of God, is also a testament to your lack of salvation. Jesus Christ is God in human form (Philippians 2:6-11). He is the product of blood/flesh/dust and the Holy Ghost. Just as Adam was a product of dust and the breath of God. Adam became an entirely new entity despite his origin. He's flesh becoming dust at the end of life, and the breath of God returning to its Creator. [There is soooooo much to talk about heeeere! Maybe one day, if you are willing.]

I don't want to spend eternity worshiping a cruel psychopath.

Being a Christian is not something God forces upon anyone. Just like abiding by man-made laws are not forced on anyone. Despite the law, everyone has the choice whether to keep to it or not. Everyone knows the punishment if they don't and to avoid that they abide by the laws. That kind of concept should not be any different regarding God. We consider, these man-made laws to be forceful (depending on the law) because of the repercussions. Repercussions of which are mostly, if not at all, immediate. However, with God, you have until you die to make up your mind. If the punishments on earth are dished out immediately, how much worse are the punishments in the spirit when it is delayed for many years.

I'm not going to approve of the Bible when every fiber of my being tells me

Since every fiber of your being is still under the control of the devil because of sin (John 8:44, 1 John 3:8), you will never approve of the Bible. That's to be expected, however, all of that can change when you surrender your life to Jesus Christ.

Thank you for reading! God bless!

 

[syo]

You will become dust.

 

[`mud]

Syo,
And from that, new life emerges, and the Cosmos endures.