American sensibilities...

[lewisnotmiller]

As a parent of toddler...and an Aussie one at that...I've recently seen pretty much every episode of Bluey. Bluey didn't exist when my earlier kids were little, which is their loss, because it's great. Kinda like an Aussie version of Peppa Pig, but with actual humour and better stories.

And it's very Australian. Anyone watching it would get an actual idea of what life in Australia is like for many of us.
How we talk, but even just what the world looks like.
Whether that's tradies coming to work at your house, bin chickens, watching State of Origin rugby, or having a Barbie with neighbours.

Weirdly, it appears to get edited for American audiences...

Bluey was edited for American viewers – but global audiences deserve to see all of us

I get that you guys allow for more freedom of speech than us in a legal sense.
And I get that this is a company censoring, rather than something the American people have actually asked for.

But...why is the American audience seen as so fragile? Just how free is speech really?

(Note, there are one or two short example in the article of edited content if you're not familiar with Bluey. But also, if you're not familiar with Bluey, hunt down a couple of episodes (7 minutes long) and do yourself a favour!!

Wackadoo!

 

[Aštra’el]

SJWs think their feelings matter.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

SJWs think their feelings matter.

Who are the SJWs involved?
Heck, what social justice issue is involved in this?

 

[SomeRandom]

As a parent of toddler...and an Aussie one at that...I've recently seen pretty much every episode of Bluey. Bluey didn't exist when my earlier kids were little, which is their loss, because it's great. Kinda like an Aussie version of Peppa Pig, but with actual humour and better stories.

And it's very Australian. Anyone watching it would get an actual idea of what life in Australia is like for many of us.
How we talk, but even just what the world looks like.
Whether that's tradies coming to work at your house, bin chickens, watching State of Origin rugby, or having a Barbie with neighbours.

Weirdly, it appears to get edited for American audiences...

Bluey was edited for American viewers – but global audiences deserve to see all of us

I get that you guys allow for more freedom of speech than us in a legal sense.
And I get that this is a company censoring, rather than something the American people have actually asked for.

But...why is the American audience seen as so fragile? Just how free is speech really?

(Note, there are one or two short example in the article of edited content if you're not familiar with Bluey. But also, if you're not familiar with Bluey, hunt down a couple of episodes (7 minutes long) and do yourself a favour!!

Wackadoo!

Mate! I have two nieces under 5. I’ve seen many a Bluey episode lol
US has been censoring international shows for years now.
From redubbing shows (because heaven forbid kids in the US hear a different Brit accent) to modifying certain commodities and interactions to better reflect US culture.
For all their cries about free speech and artistic integrity, I find myself a little unable to take them at their word, truth be told.
Dare I say, it comes across as quite fragile

 

[The Hammer]

As a parent of toddler...and an Aussie one at that...I've recently seen pretty much every episode of Bluey. Bluey didn't exist when my earlier kids were little, which is their loss, because it's great. Kinda like an Aussie version of Peppa Pig, but with actual humour and better stories.

And it's very Australian. Anyone watching it would get an actual idea of what life in Australia is like for many of us.
How we talk, but even just what the world looks like.
Whether that's tradies coming to work at your house, bin chickens, watching State of Origin rugby, or having a Barbie with neighbours.

Weirdly, it appears to get edited for American audiences...

Bluey was edited for American viewers – but global audiences deserve to see all of us

I get that you guys allow for more freedom of speech than us in a legal sense.
And I get that this is a company censoring, rather than something the American people have actually asked for.

But...why is the American audience seen as so fragile? Just how free is speech really?

(Note, there are one or two short example in the article of edited content if you're not familiar with Bluey. But also, if you're not familiar with Bluey, hunt down a couple of episodes (7 minutes long) and do yourself a favour!!

Wackadoo!

We're much weaker than we let on. At least most of us. I think I'm fairly open minded, but who knows, it could be bias.

 

[Sand Dancer]

SJWs think their feelings matter.

I think the offense was more from the right than the left.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I will apologize for the US. I am so sorry, but Disney always makes things worse. The heads of Disney still live in the Leave it to Beaver era in their heads. And since we are talking Disney here you probably cannot even link any shows that have not been edited. Often you can go to YouTube and find videos of shows, but Disney is so protective of their brand that any intrusion on it often results in a take down notice. This can be useful at times. But usually it is just a large pain in the behind. For content creators they have to worry about music in their background. Was that a Disney owned song? Better take it out or your video might disappear.

 

[John53]

As a parent of toddler...and an Aussie one at that...I've recently seen pretty much every episode of Bluey.

Lucky you, my daughter was a Postman Pat addict. Try watching every episode of that a thousand times.

 

[Brian2]

As a parent of toddler...and an Aussie one at that...I've recently seen pretty much every episode of Bluey. Bluey didn't exist when my earlier kids were little, which is their loss, because it's great. Kinda like an Aussie version of Peppa Pig, but with actual humour and better stories.

And it's very Australian. Anyone watching it would get an actual idea of what life in Australia is like for many of us.
How we talk, but even just what the world looks like.
Whether that's tradies coming to work at your house, bin chickens, watching State of Origin rugby, or having a Barbie with neighbours.

Weirdly, it appears to get edited for American audiences...

Bluey was edited for American viewers – but global audiences deserve to see all of us

I get that you guys allow for more freedom of speech than us in a legal sense.
And I get that this is a company censoring, rather than something the American people have actually asked for.

But...why is the American audience seen as so fragile? Just how free is speech really?

(Note, there are one or two short example in the article of edited content if you're not familiar with Bluey. But also, if you're not familiar with Bluey, hunt down a couple of episodes (7 minutes long) and do yourself a favour!!

Wackadoo!

It OK editing Bluey for US audiences but I do remember in the past when US sensibilities have come to Australian TV and one talent show host from the US told off an act that wore black face and did a sort of minstrel act. And then there was the Burt Newton episode with Muhammad Ali.
American PC becomes Australian PC and nobody told Muhammad off or that US talent show host.

 

[sun rise]

But...why is the American audience seen as so fragile? Just how free is speech really?

The right is all in on their kids being utterly fragile that the mere mention of gays will turn them gay and remembering slavery will cause them some emotional distress and that can't be allowed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The right is all in on their kids being utterly fragile that the mere mention of gays will turn them gay and remembering slavery will cause them some emotional distress and that can't be allowed.

Besides they figure, it was not as if their ancestors were enslaved Perhaps that makes it okay in their eyes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But...why is the American audience seen as so fragile? Just how free is speech really?

The Crush Pinball games are another good example of how had it gets. Illusion of Time/Gaia on the SNES also had some whack absurd edits made for the American audience, including removing references to cannibalism.
But, at the same time, there is definitely a market and appreciation for darker stuff, like the Crow or Nine Inch Nails and Spawn or Chuck Palahniuk novels (Guts even had me shocked and left in a stupor of "oh my god"s as I read the last part).
So, I guess in the extremes there are two parts of an American Coin. One side are the churchy, holier than thou arses who get worked up over the sight of a boob, and the other side are those who took the Vampire Chronicles and Vampire:The Masquerade way too far and literal.
And then there's Happy Tree Friends, Adult Swim, and South Park.

 

[Valjean]

Well, it's well known that Americans are bluenoses, but recently we've become snowflakes, as well, easily offended by distasteful images or unflattering ideas.

 

[mangalavara]

One side are the churchy, holier than thou arses folks who get worked up over the sight of a boob purity ring remover

Sorry, I had to edit that for an American audience.

 

[Valjean]

The Crush Pinball games are another good example of how had it gets. Illusion of Time/Gaia on the SNES also had some whack absurd edits made for the American audience, including removing references to cannibalism.
But, at the same time, there is definitely a market and appreciation for darker stuff, like the Crow or Nine Inch Nails and Spawn or Chuck Palahniuk novels (Guts even had me shocked and left in a stupor of "oh my god"s as I read the last part).
So, I guess in the extremes there are two parts of an American Coin. One side are the churchy, holier than thou arses who get worked up over the sight of a boob, and the other side are those who took the Vampire Chronicles and Vampire:The Masquerade way too far and literal.
And then there's Happy Tree Friends, Adult Swim, and South Park.

American TV is weird, and goes through stages. I saw topless Caucasian women on UHF TV in the fifties. Non-Caucasian topless women were OK on network TV from the '30s through the sixties. Award-winning, prime time series like Roots in the '70s or Shaka Zulu in the '80s featured topless women.
In the '90s full frontal nude paintings and sculpture were normal, prime time fare, as was occasional live, full frontal female nudity -- as long as the model didn't move.

Today we have explicit commercials for underwear, pharmaceuticals and medical procedures we'd never have seen in the past, but no live toplessness, or naked babies. Popular films and TV series from the '70s featuring braless women are blurred out. Nude sculptures and paintings are no longer allowed. I've even seen images of topless, four or five year old girls playing in a pool or at the beach blurred out.

There's no consistency, and none of it makes any sense. Acceptable ideas, images and topics constantly change.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It OK editing Bluey for US audiences but I do remember in the past when US sensibilities have come to Australian TV and one talent show host from the US told off an act that wore black face and did a sort of minstrel act. And then there was the Burt Newton episode with Muhammad Ali.
American PC becomes Australian PC and nobody told Muhammad off or that US talent show host.

Well...because there was American involvement in the actual show.
And they represented areas of ignorance.

Dressing up in blackface was outdated, and offensive to many (particularly Americans, but certainly not only Americans).
And the Ali incident you're talking to was when he was called 'boy', which more cultural miscommunication than anything.

Both were productions involving Americans, and causing racial offence to Americans.

This isn't really the same.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The right is all in on their kids being utterly fragile that the mere mention of gays will turn them gay and remembering slavery will cause them some emotional distress and that can't be allowed.

Both of which seem ridiculous, but...this was waaaaay less controversial than that.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Well, it's well known that Americans are bluenoses, but recently we've become snowflakes, as well, easily offended by distasteful images or unflattering ideas.

Even by THOSE standards...

Bluey might not be familiar to many here in any detail, but most episode have tons of cool little games or jokes for kids. Very innocent stuff.

 

[Valjean]

Even by THOSE standards...

Bluey might not be familiar to many here in any detail, but most episode have tons of cool little games or jokes for kids. Very innocent stuff.

So's a topless, four year old girl playing in a back yard kiddie pool, but Americans apparently find this unacceptable, as well.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

So's a topless, four year old girl playing in a back yard kiddie pool, but Americans apparently find this unacceptable, as well.

Agreed. Not what I had in mind when you talked about 'distasteful images or unflattering ideas' but you meant in the minds of some, rather than commonly viewed that way.

Slightly misunderstood.